I was looking through the SFWD rule book and the "Engine Containment Device" section. It seems very specific as what needs to be used. My question is, how the hell am I supposed to make something like this? I have not seen any type of production part that meets these requirements.

This is just one more thing that makes me not want to compete with my car in classes like this. It is just too expensive to meet all tech requirements for the "average" sport front wheel drive racer.

Tech legal things for a 135+mph car are 1.) roll cage, 2.) flywheel scattershield, 3.) Engine/Tranny Diaper, 4.) Neck Collar, & 5.) Master Electrical Cutoff.

 

the stuff is done for the safety of you and others. hitting a wall at 135 is no joke. the cost of these things isnt all that bad when you compare it to what your life is worth?

 

yah true i guess my life is worth about $1,234,199. Anyway... any info on the diaper? what are you using?

 

i havnt decided. im going to look around and see what kind of aluminum i have laying around and maybe fab one up? im sure thats going to take forever and a day though.

im sure james will chime in on the one that they have available. im waiting to see how that one is going to mount before i decide which route i want to go. my main concern is that i want something thatt will not make the car a pain in the nuts to work on.

 

RCI makes diaper for our engines

Hit up James, He can get u one.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dunkd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was looking through the SFWD rule book and the "Engine Containment Device" section. It seems very specific as what needs to be used. My question is, how the hell am I supposed to make something like this? I have not seen any type of production part that meets these requirements.

This is just one more thing that makes me not want to compete with my car in classes like this. It is just too expensive to meet all tech requirements for the "average" sport front wheel drive racer.

Tech legal things for a 135+mph car are 1.) roll cage, 2.) flywheel scattershield, 3.) Engine/Tranny Diaper, 4.) Neck Collar, & 5.) Master Electrical Cutoff. </TD></TR></TABLE>


same thing i thought of when I was going to swap the setup into my del sol. i was like wow... there's just too much **** you need just to compete. it's gonna be hard for the average joe like myself to compete.

 

what tranny issues are you concerned with?

 

couldn't the pan-type containment device double as a sort of air foil for aerodynamics? so its a win-win situation?

 

Yea, make the whole underside of the car sheetmetal and smooth like the salt flat cars, land speed record cars.

The rci is the universal diaper correct? Do the rules say you need for engine and trans? If so thats like $500 in two universal (square peg in the round hole fitment) diapers and pretty much forget about working on the car between rounds unless they are going to give spfwd guy a tear down period between rounds

Could I use the plastic one off of my sti and plastic weld tabs on the sides to contain the fluids? lol j/k

 

Someone is going to need to do a DIY write-up on a tech legal aluminum catch shield.

 

Does anyone have a picture of one of these animals ?

 

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I think http://www.one-fab.com has pics that he made one for his car.

 

 

Looks Good

 

Is that certified? Who made it? If thats all they want you to have then thats simple to make, sad thing is people will probably charge over $300 for it.

 

consider how much time that thing probably took to make......im willing to bet it would be way way more than 300 bucks.

 

That was made by Matt at One-Fab.

These are for 9.59 or quicker. Only a few of Turbo4 cars last year went that fast. Im sure this year will be different though.

 

I guess I'l be running at local tracks for now. **** is just adding up so fast I cant even keep up.

 

Same for me, by the time i get my car ready I'll need full tube chassis to compete.

And I thought this was required for any car competing in SFWD?

Joe, I know that with testing and all the welding and design this piece is worth $300.
The sad thing is that the whole bottom can be made out of one piece = less welding and as far as time to make it once you have the design figured out it's all downhill from there. NHRA's rule for this thing is too much grey area and have heard that to get it certified you have to go to the track to see if the tech passes it and if not...hey i guess your racing brackets for the weekend.

They need more definition in this rule so that we know exactly what we need to have before we waste are time guessing at the nhra's rule. Which brings up this question again...Is this one-fab piece certivied to use, will it pass tech for this rule?

Depending on requirements, DIY wouldn't be much money. But i'm not saying anything cuz everytime i suggest something on this site people are anti-what i say untill a "company" makes the same thing i said about.

 

"ENGINE CONTAINMENT DEVICE:
Engine diaper or catch-pan device to capture oil and debris in
event of engine failure mandatory. Where exhaust header passes
directly under oil pan, two-piece diaper may be utilized. FWD
vehicles using OEM manual-transmission case must also have
such a device for the transmission, to capture oil and debris in
event of transmission failure. If catch-pan device is used, catch
pan must employ minimum 1-inch-high lips on all sides. Lips must
be coved or curved inward, so as to contain oil in pan. 1-inch-high
lips are a minimum. In all cases, lips must be adequate enough to
contain oil in the catch pan. Should a competitor spill oil from the
catch pan onto the track, he or she may be disqualified from
further competition until catch pan is upgraded, regardless of
height of pan lips or pan design."

This makes no sence...What does it need to be made of? How thick does it need to be? What requirement need to be met to pass tech? It also sounds like even if it passes tech and somehow doesn't catch all the oil you get disqualified regardless of
height of pan lips or pan design (which just passed tech).
If they are going to be this vauge on the rule they better not be too strict when it comes to enforcing the rule.


Modified by 80884 at 7:23 PM 2/7/2006

 

who is actually running one?

 

a few guys have them already but nobody has installed it yet. im itching to see one installed to see what kind of a pain it is. why can't we just use cardboard and duct tape. its proven to go 200mph

 

If you go by the rule in nhra rulebook it doesn't say you can't

I was thinking of using aluminum foil and wraping the underneath of the car, when we grill with that stuff it seams pretty tuff and doesn't leak ofter either.

Maybe get some high quality pig mat or even this looks like it would work for $100....

http://www.newpig.com/en_US/ma...jhtml

 

I think Im just gonna ductape a tupperware store lid underneath my car and call it a day

 

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its going to be everyone running sfwd in '06 going 135+mph