Honda Prelude All Model Preludes

Ball joint? but im not sure.....help!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:06 PM
  #1  
:David:'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
From: United States
Default Ball joint? but im not sure.....help!!!

Ok, my car is a '99 honda prelude base. As of late (past couple of days) when I accelerate the steering shakes pretty good and the ride is very rough. Im thinking it's the ball joint but im not sure. It is just whenever I accelerate, if im going 70 or anyother speed and let off the accelerator its as smoothe as can be. Another wierd thing is when I went through a couple of puddle and then accelerated it didnt do it anymore. It's also making somewhat of a knocking sound. Motor is fine it's just something in the suspension, my guess would be the ball joint so im just trying to see if anyone has had this happen to them before. thanks guys
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 01:37 PM
  #2  
BB6racer's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 980
Likes: 0
From: WA, USA
Default

the clunking noise could be your axle. check that first, and if that seems ok then check that all your suspension is torques all the way and nothing is loose. check yourradius rod, and control arms, steering arm, and sway bar.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 02:30 PM
  #3  
CAN97SH's Avatar
Resident Hoser #1
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,276
Likes: 0
From: The Great White North eH!
Default Re: (BB6racer)

I just went through this. I don't think it's your balljoint. You would hear it constantly. It sounds to me your outer or inner Tie Rod Ends are done for.

Just jack the car up, take a wheel off and grab a hold of the tie rod end and move it around. If it seems lose or clunky then that's your problem. The upper control arm is right above the tie rod end. Grab ahold of that and pull it back and fourth as well as up and down. If there is alot of play then that is gone too.

Try that and let us know how it went.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 02:37 PM
  #4  
:David:'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
From: United States
Default Re: (CAN97SH)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CAN97SH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just went through this. I don't think it's your balljoint. You would hear it constantly. It sounds to me your outer or inner Tie Rod Ends are done for.

Just jack the car up, take a wheel off and grab a hold of the tie rod end and move it around. If it seems lose or clunky then that's your problem. The upper control arm is right above the tie rod end. Grab ahold of that and pull it back and fourth as well as up and down. If there is alot of play then that is gone too.

Try that and let us know how it went. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, its a pretty constant noise, almost sounds like theres just a piece of metal floating around in the engine bay. Also shakes pretty bad when under acceleration no matter how fast im accelerating. Also, if im stopped at a light and just start to accelerate it makes a popping noise. If its the tie rod how much would that be to replace? thanks guys
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 02:48 PM
  #5  
CAN97SH's Avatar
Resident Hoser #1
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,276
Likes: 0
From: The Great White North eH!
Default Re: (ooitzdavidoo)

I got quoted 75.00 Canadian for the outer left and 75.00 for the outer right side. You will also need an alignment after replacing these if you need to.

Dude, I don't think you know what your getting into. If you have constant noise, you could be in the same boat that I'm in. I have had swaybar link problems, both upper balljoints, and both outer tie rod end problems. I'm almost done replacing everything and it better be a quiet ride when I'm done.

If you have a shop in your city that does free suspension checks, get that done so you know what's wrong unless you know what your looking for. If you want to check yourself, just put the car on jackstands and brag a hold of all the above and move them around to ee how much play they have but mostly how "clunky" they feel.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 03:35 PM
  #6  
:David:'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
From: United States
Default Re: (CAN97SH)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CAN97SH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got quoted 75.00 Canadian for the outer left and 75.00 for the outer right side. You will also need an alignment after replacing these if you need to.

Dude, I don't think you know what your getting into. If you have constant noise, you could be in the same boat that I'm in. I have had swaybar link problems, both upper balljoints, and both outer tie rod end problems. I'm almost done replacing everything and it better be a quiet ride when I'm done.

If you have a shop in your city that does free suspension checks, get that done so you know what's wrong unless you know what your looking for. If you want to check yourself, just put the car on jackstands and brag a hold of all the above and move them around to ee how much play they have but mostly how "clunky" they feel.</TD></TR></TABLE>


ok, theres a shop around the corner from me that i trust so ill take it there tomorrow. how much did everything end up costing you?
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 03:41 PM
  #7  
CAN97SH's Avatar
Resident Hoser #1
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,276
Likes: 0
From: The Great White North eH!
Default Re: (ooitzdavidoo)

Upper Balljoints (with control arms) = $175.00 X 2
Outer Tie Rod Ends = $75.00 X 2
Sway Bar links = $70.00 X 2

You don't have to do everything at once, I'm still waiting to get the tie rods ends and one sway bar link to get and install.

This is also Canadian dollars.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 03:48 PM
  #8  
:David:'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
From: United States
Default Re: (CAN97SH)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CAN97SH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Upper Balljoints (with control arms) = $175.00 X 2
Outer Tie Rod Ends = $75.00 X 2
Sway Bar links = $70.00 X 2

You don't have to do everything at once, I'm still waiting to get the tie rods ends and one sway bar link to get and install.

This is also Canadian dollars. </TD></TR></TABLE>

what is the exchange rate with american dollars? and if that is the case then what order do you suggest going in to get those things. i dont want to drive it and put myself at risk to wreck
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 03:53 PM
  #9  
CAN97SH's Avatar
Resident Hoser #1
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,276
Likes: 0
From: The Great White North eH!
Default Re: (ooitzdavidoo)

Wxchange rate is 87 cents to the American dollar.

The balljoints and tie rod ends are the most important. I think you could go without the sway bar links even if they break. The links just hold the sway bar intact so it's not a safety issue if they break.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 03:55 PM
  #10  
:David:'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
From: United States
Default Re: (CAN97SH)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CAN97SH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wxchange rate is 87 cents to the American dollar.

The balljoints and tie rod ends are the most important. I think you could go without the sway bar links even if they break. The links just hold the sway bar intact so it's not a safety issue if they break.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

cool, thanks alot for your help man it sounds like its mainly coming from the right side of the car. like the popping noise when i take off and while im going.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:12 PM
  #11  
CAN97SH's Avatar
Resident Hoser #1
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,276
Likes: 0
From: The Great White North eH!
Default Re: (ooitzdavidoo)

You should get your axles checked out also cause you never know. Normally when an axle is gone you would hear the noise kick in through a corner. It all depends on how bad it is I guess. If you want, check your CV Boots to see if they are cracked/torn or if there is grease around that area.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 06:31 PM
  #12  
UK_prelude VTEC's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
From: South West UK, UK
Default Re: (CAN97SH)

I had an identical problem - eventually traced it to the inner CV joint. Remove your wheel, and with the car in gear, rotate the hub back and forth, turning the axle, whilst watching the inner joint. In my case, the axle was moving up and down in the joint by about 1/2" - AND the axle was bent! (discovered after sending it off to be reconditioned).
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2006 | 02:30 PM
  #13  
:David:'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
From: United States
Default Re: (UK_prelude VTEC)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UK_prelude VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had an identical problem - eventually traced it to the inner CV joint. Remove your wheel, and with the car in gear, rotate the hub back and forth, turning the axle, whilst watching the inner joint. In my case, the axle was moving up and down in the joint by about 1/2" - AND the axle was bent! (discovered after sending it off to be reconditioned).</TD></TR></TABLE>


Im thinking its the cv joint, did yours kind of shake when under acceleration?
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2006 | 02:10 PM
  #14  
UK_prelude VTEC's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
From: South West UK, UK
Default Re: (:David:)

Yes, once you got up to speed (about 50-60mph) - it also shook when you came off the throttle at speed. If you balanced the throttle, so that the engine isn't driving the wheels or the wheels driving the engine, the vibes disappeared - this is what pointed me towards a drivetrain problem instead of wheel balance / suspension.
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2006 | 06:18 PM
  #15  
:David:'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
From: United States
Default Re: (UK_prelude VTEC)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UK_prelude VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, once you got up to speed (about 50-60mph) - it also shook when you came off the throttle at speed. If you balanced the throttle, so that the engine isn't driving the wheels or the wheels driving the engine, the vibes disappeared - this is what pointed me towards a drivetrain problem instead of wheel balance / suspension.</TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly what is happening except mine shakes after 20mph but doesnt really get to bad until 45 or 50
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
William1991b
Honda Accord (1990 - 2002)
5
Oct 18, 2017 09:57 PM
SharkEg
Suspension & Brakes
6
Jun 17, 2012 05:01 PM
v8Buster
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
4
Jan 2, 2007 09:16 PM
tylerdurden
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
5
Feb 7, 2003 01:53 PM
blackEF
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
9
Jun 27, 2002 09:23 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:34 PM.