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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 07:57 AM
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I have a 2005 civic SI that is in need of some modifications. I don’t have the money to boost yet but in about one month or so I will be all go. The problem is I put about 2400 miles per month on the car and money is tight so if I blow a turbo or anything I wont be able to replace it right away. I have considered a motor swap but those are too expensive. I currently have an injen intake and am wondering should I just do the basic I/H/E and hondata or go boost?
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 07:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MYSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 2005 civic SI that is in need of some modifications. I don’t have the money to boost yet but in about one month or so I will be all go. The problem is I put about 2400 miles per month on the car and money is tight so if I blow a turbo or anything I wont be able to replace it right away. I have considered a motor swap but those are too expensive. I currently have an injen intake and am wondering should I just do the basic I/H/E and hondata or go boost? </TD></TR></TABLE>
if your afraid of reliability, then jus don't crank up the boost. . . leave it at a low setting.. till perhaps u can save money on the side should something arise...

OR build you motor to HANDLE the boost first, then boost the **** out of it
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 08:40 AM
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If it were me, I would stay N/A and swap the engine out when it is older when you have the resources,it will be more reliable than FI. If I were in your situation right now, I would focus on suspension. I highly recommend the Mugen Sport Suspension Kit because it makes the car handle great and it lowers the car just enough that it makes it perfect for a daily driver. It also retains the stock tie rod angles so there is less stress on the steering rack. I believe this is the only suspension for this car that does that. You may also want to invest in some lighter wheels(16's at most and at least 7" wide) and some performance tires. A bigger rear sway bar(JDM 22mm) is also said to make a big difference in handling.

Good Luck.

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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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Thanks for the advice. How much does the mugen suspension cost?
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MYSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the advice. How much does the mugen suspension cost?</TD></TR></TABLE>
A little over a grand. If you're like me and don't want to deal with adjusting everything -- or leaving adjustments as-is because they're rusted together -- the Mugen kit is the way to go for a daily driver. Significant difference over stock, but not so crazy that it's unlivable on the street.

As far as the tie rod angle is concerned, I've heard that the Buddy Club suspension also makes the correction.

What I've learned so far is that engine mods take a lot more money if you want noticeable gains. Suspension & tires are definitely something to check out.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Thanks for the advice
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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it you cant afford to swap a k20a in there, you're not going to be able to afford a good AND reliable setup.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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I'm willing to spend $4000.00 on a turbo setup. I don't know how much the type s motor but I know for sure I cant afford the dc5 R motor.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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theres a 2003 type s motor being sold for $2800

everything including the harness is there minus the axles

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1515710
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by initialse7en &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theres a 2003 type s motor being sold for $2800

everything including the harness is there minus the axles

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1515710</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh **** oh ****.... why have I been waiting to do my taxes...
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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Where is this motor at? and also ho many miles and is it legit.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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answered my own question gota start looking for links.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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Dont get a motor swap........you will be so disappointed its not even going to be funny. Unless you have something like a 89-95 civic hatchback and your swapping the motor for a b18 or k20, your not going to feel the power. If you want to feel power, go turbo, if you dont want to go turbo, leave the car alone. Because the amount of money your going to spend on a swap is not going to be worth the amount of power your going to get.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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Well, some of us don't have -- or want to own -- a fifteen-year-old chassis right away. I bought my EP brand-new (first brand-new car for me) and intend to keep it a long time. As far as "feeling" it, when I drive a stock type-s, I certainly can feel the extra 40 horsepower.

If I wanted to carefully tend to my car so that it won't blow itself up, I'd go turbo. That's not why I bought a Honda, though -- I want it to work as easily as my kitchen sink.

Besides, the money spent swapping a K motor into an EF or EG could be used for a swap plus motor mods in an EP.

All these guys swapping modern motors into their shaky soon-to-be-classic cars can go ahead and do so. I'd rather have some civility and safety.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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I was thinking of getting this Jackson Racing supercharger for my si. Feedback if you guys can please. http://truehonda.com/inventory...d=403
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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if you think a motor swaps going to make you happy instead of a turbo, go for it. But with in a couple of months your going to notice its not enough power and your going to want more. Also a supercharger takes away some power from the motor in order spin its turbine, and a four cyclinder motor doesnt even have that much power to begin with. So if your going to boost a four cyclinder, go turbo.
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