So I've got the opportunity to buy a pretty inexpensive set of Tein SS's for my 89 crx HF. I like the reliability/build of the Tein's, however I am not crazy about the non-custom 450/250 (roughly) rates of the dampers. So, my question is: Would it be possible to simply swap the rear coils in favor of a custom (450) rear, probably an Eibach set (Can I even get eibach's in custom rates?). Would I lose any adjustability? I have never run an adjustable susp. setup, sorry if this is a bet "beginner".

 

conceivably you can switch out the springs. however, you have to make sure the eibach springs that you are replacing with are of the same inner diameter. i believe tein uses 60mm springs. typical eibach springs are 2.5" (63.5mm), they also have 2.25" (57mm) also. they may make specifcally 60mm springs, i dunno.

another option than eibach springs is swift tohatsu race springs. since tehyre made in japan, theyll have 60mm springs available im sure, and i have a good confidence in their quality, even though i have not owned anything from them.

you might also want to check H&R or hypercoil race springs availablility.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">conceivably you can switch out the springs. however, you have to make sure the eibach springs that you are replacing with are of the same inner diameter. i believe tein uses 60mm springs. typical eibach springs are 2.5" (63.5mm), they also have 2.25" (57mm) also. they may make specifcally 60mm springs, i dunno.

another option than eibach springs is swift tohatsu race springs. since tehyre made in japan, theyll have 60mm springs available im sure, and i have a good confidence in their quality, even though i have not owned anything from them.

you might also want to check H&R or hypercoil race springs availablility.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sounds awesome Tyson. From what I understand, most spring manufactures (H&R, Eibach, etc.) will offer custom spring rates, correct? Also, would I purchase CRX specific "size" in order to fit the CRX specific TEIN ss (keeping in mind to make sure to have a 60mm inside diameter)?

 

springs wouldnt be "crx" specific. just specify the length, spring rate and diameter.

have you called tein? maybe theyll sell you custom rate springs that will fit as well.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">springs wouldnt be "crx" specific. just specify the length, spring rate and diameter.

have you called tein? maybe theyll sell you custom rate springs that will fit as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Haven't contacted tein but just looked into H&R and Swift racing, both have 60mm inside diamters with custom rates and length. However, I haen't been able to find the Hypercoil in 60mm ID.

The H&R are descently priced at about $120/pair which seems dirt cheap to me. What lenght would I be looking to purchase for the rears?

 

just get the same length as your old ones. you'd know better than me what that is.

id still call tein.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just get the same length as your old ones.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Great, thanks Tyson!

Bump for anyone who has any experience with using either custom rates from Swift Racing or H&R, I'd like to hear some stuff regarding build quality/cutomer service!

 

btw, let me also comment that i dont think 450/250 is necessarily bad.

do you have a rear sway bar yet? id spend that $120 youre so willing to spend on springs on a rear swaybar first.

with an HF, unless you want to do some custom fabrication, a suspension techniques is your only choice.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw, let me also comment that i dont think 450/250 is necessarily bad.

do you have a rear sway bar yet? id spend that $120 youre so willing to spend on springs on a rear swaybar first.

with an HF, unless you want to do some custom fabrication, a suspension techniques is your only choice.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't have a swaybar but had planned on picking up the 22mm ST rear swaybar and using them in conjuction with the 450's out rear. Do you think that'd be overkill?

 

that depends.

what are you doing with your car? just driving daily? spirited?

dont kid yourself. if this is just a daily driver, you dont need to up the rear rates. at least get the swaybar first.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that depends.

what are you doing with your car? just driving daily? spirited?

dont kid yourself. if this is just a daily driver, you dont need to up the rear rates. at least get the swaybar first.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Car is mostly daily driving with some spirited runs here and there. It will probaby see 4-5 auto-x events this year and 2-3 drag events.

 

well, you dont need my approval to do anything you want. ive already given my advice. have fun.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, you dont need my approval to do anything you want. ive already given my advice. have fun.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Quick question tyson-

I've noticed a lot of people (especially recently) jumping up to the higher rates in the back. What exactly does this do for the suspension handling and characteristics of the car? Is the stiffer rear striclty to try to dial in more oversteer, or does it drastically improve handling characteristics?

 

generally, stiffen the rear or soften the front for more oversteer. the opposite for more understeer. this goes with either springs or swaybars.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">generally, stiffen the rear or soften the front for more oversteer. the opposite for more understeer. this goes with either springs or swaybars. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Aside from the benefit of oversteer (in moderation) can I expect any better handling by going that much (250 to 450) of a higher rate in the rear? I'm also curious about what 450 in the rear feels like on the street, I have only ridden on my shitty generic springs and my brothers EF with off-the-shelf GC's.

 

i dunno man. why dont you try swapping your front and rear springs.