Hey Guys I have a Honda Civic SI 90 Hatchback

heres the story

We bought a motor from some guy that told me to come here and check...he sold a D16A1 Motor and called it a Zc motor now i understand that this is Not a ZC motor and that the motor mounts are different....

what i need to know is this....

1. Will this motor work in this car(we keep getting yes and no's)?

2. Can we change the mounts (we keep hearing we can)

3. Is it worth it?

4. If not does anyone know sombody looking to buy this motor (or on ebay) we have to install in the car they want? ($500)

5. can anyone get their hands on a GENUINE ZC motor and how much?
thanks guys

 

1. you wil need cuztum mownt

3. no,2 much work 4 crapy motr,,
4. lot of peeple on redpepperracing want d16a1 engin cuz they bolt rite in 2 84-87 cars
5. hmotorsonline $500..ebay $500..mani other plases

 

ban?

 

a real zc will bolt right in, you can use your si tranny, and shift linkage. axles, and stuff. you would need the ecu though.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AJxr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a real zc will bolt right in, you can use your si tranny, and shift linkage. axles, and stuff. you would need the ecu though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i nedda find a Zc that is not 800 bucks first....so if i order from hmotorsonline they have the best deal....can i ask them not to give me the tranny???

 

o wait..I sory..I thot u wer askin if d16a1 engin wil bolt in..sory..

reel zc motr wil bolt in..the 1 u want is 88-91 obd0 blacktop jdm zc,edm d16a8.,or d16a9 engin..
..hmotors hav dohc zc motr 4 $500 and trani is like $150 by itself..may-bee u shood chek ebay all-so..Or even theis website in clasified..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BRIJPURT13B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">o wait..I sory..I thot u wer askin if d16a1 engin wil bolt in..sory..jdm zc,edm d16a8.,or d16a9 engin..

reel zc motr wil bolt in..the 1 u want is 88-91 obd0 blacktop ..hmotors hav dohc zc motr 4 $500 and trani is like $150 by itself..may-bee u shood chek ebay all-so..Or even theis website in clasified..</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah i will keep checkin....but since can use the SI tranny i dont need the Zc tranny....that might save me some money....and even if that d16a1 does work then i need to find parts for it

i also will need to get rid of this piece of junk too

 

go to hmotorsonline.com you will find everything you need at a great price. peace

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostinaintez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go to hmotorsonline.com you will find everything you need at a great price. peace</TD></TR></TABLE>

can i avoid the tranny from the zc

 

Go ahead and get the trans too.... you won't regret it. The ZC trans is even sportier(shorter geared) than the Si


::: off topic ::: People still do the "team thing"??? Or are you talking about a legitimate "race team"? I'm doubting the from the sound of your inexperience that you are part of an actual race/build team.......No disrespect...Just wondering


Good luck With the project

 

actually yes....but i personally dont work on car my team members do...
i am only 20 but my friends are all older

http://www.teamchaoticracing.com

 

you can buy the engine without getting the transmission - the Si transmission is better for accleration anyway due to it's 4.25 final drive - as of this morning Hmotorsonline does not have the DOHC ZC you need - try here:

http://www.noyanusa.com/enginelist.html

 

Noyan is the shiznit and mark is the man there. I used to live like 10 miles from them up in VA. Their motors always look great and even when i had a problem with a dizzy and a TB on another motor, they fixed the problem with a quickness. Its nice to go there and drool over the badass front clips they carry too Just thought i would chime in and give my feedback on them. Its nice when u can find a local importer so u can go check the place out and pick the motor u want.

 

so are you rocky from team chaotic?

 

To clearify a bit. The D16a1 is the Integra motor that came in 86-89 integras I believe. The ZC DOHC motor came in 89-91 CRX SI's in Japan. Not sure if they put them in the Hatch's or not. The motor mounts for the ZC bolt right in( I would know look at my sig ) The D16a1 does not. Most people on here know that but a few say that the D16a1 is a ZC but it IS NOT! Oh for the ECU you can use the 89 Integra PG7 ecu it works just fine but runs abit rich. Athough wise get the PM7 ecu which is a bit rare.

 

i strongly recommend a cable to hydro conversion and then the 92-95 SI transmission, or the 96-2000 EX transmission or the 96-98 SI transmission, this cable clutch bullshit sucks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by x_outlaw_x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i strongly recommend a cable to hydro conversion and then the 92-95 SI transmission, or the 96-2000 EX transmission or the 96-98 SI transmission, this cable clutch bullshit sucks</TD></TR></TABLE>
I never really used a hydro but I have no compliants about my cable clutch so far.

 

I &lt;3 Cable Transmissions.

 

1. pointless to convert to hydro when he has an si trans already
why would he want to spend 400 bucks on something that will do him no
good whatsoever

2. There's no such thing as a 96-98 Si

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by d16vtecx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1. pointless to convert to hydro when he has an si trans already
why would he want to spend 400 bucks on something that will do him no
good whatsoever

2. There's no such thing as a 96-98 Si</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is true, and I like the gear ratio of the SI trans is the newer one any better is that why you would want to switch? The only reason I would is becuase of LSD.

 

im pretty sure they made civic SI's from 96-98...remember they are really ugly with the d16y8.


they have a better gear ratio, stronger shift forks, and hydro clutch is just more reliable...and a cable-hydro conversion is only like 110

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by x_outlaw_x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im pretty sure they made civic SI's from 96-98...remember they are really ugly with the d16y8.
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I know they had them in canada..their 96-98 si is like our EX,,and their 99-00 SIR civic is basically the same as our 99-00 SI civic

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by x_outlaw_x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im pretty sure they made civic SI's from 96-98...remember they are really ugly with the d16y8.


they have a better gear ratio, stronger shift forks, and hydro clutch is just more reliable...and a cable-hydro conversion is only like 110</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't see it being worth it unless he was going to go b-series or maybe d series vtec. I don't have any issues with reliablity and I take plenty of civics with my cable tranny (just a bit of fun but you make a good point)