No brakes after swap... Booster or Master cylinder?

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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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Default No brakes after swap... Booster or Master cylinder?

Before my z6 swap my brakes were fine. Now after swap when driving the i have no brake pressure. But when the car is off the pedal is stiff as hell, I press it as hard as i can, dosent go down. But right when the car is started brake pedal pressure goes to ****, have to pump breaks to stop. Is this a booster or MC problem? I bleed the breaks too.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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DID U BLEED THEM THE PROPER WAY? sorry bout the caps lock. make sure u got all the lines ran right.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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I have bleed brakes before, I pump the brakes while my friend opens and closes the bleeder valve on each tire starting with the rear passenger 1st, then driver front, read driver, lastly front passenger.

I just wondering if it could be the booster beacuse pedal goest straight to the ground when the car is started.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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What did you swap? Just bleed them again, never can do it too much. Use a vacuum pump.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by downest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What did you swap? Just bleed them again, never can do it too much. Use a vacuum pump.</TD></TR></TABLE>

D16z6 swap
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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So did you even touch the brakes? Just bled them and now they suck? Weird. Like I said, get a vacuum pump and a couple of litres of fluid and just bleed the **** out of them, make sure you aren't leaking. If you're sure they're done right, might be time to get a new master cylinder. Someone on the resource posted a while back about how our MCs start to leak when the brakes are bled. His idea (not verified though) was that the cylinder is normally pressed to a certain distance in the bore on the MC, and when you bleed it and go further down, you break seals or something. Anyway, can't hurt to replace it, get a 15/16".
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 09:06 AM
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i have the same problem still havent fix it haha i think is master cylinder when is time to sto brake peadal goes all the way in. i even took it to a shop just to make shure they dint even know what was wrong but i will replace the master cylinder n let u know if worked
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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Yeah can't be bad to replace my MC, i have an extra 1" master cylinder from my spare parts EF, its prettey new too.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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its more than likely the master cyclinder. i had a 93 buick lesabre that had the same problem. replaced the master cyclinder after checking with the buick shop manual i had said that was the problem. fixed it.

as for bleeding, i thought it was always passenger rear, driver rear, pass front, then driver front..

if i am wrong bout the bleeding let me know.. is it a universal thing, or a honda thing
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsxr1k05 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

as for bleeding, i thought it was always passenger rear, driver rear, pass front, then driver front..

if i am wrong bout the bleeding let me know.. is it a universal thing, or a honda thing</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats the way i did it until i took a look at a Helms Manual (always thought you had to do the farther wheel first). guess i was wrong.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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Honestly, I think everyone does it different. My dad taught me farthest to nearest, but the manual says otherwise, and I think the Haynes manual differs from the OEM too. Anyway, make sure you bench bleed that 1" when you put it on, or you're going to spend a few hours trying to get all the fluid out. What is that MC from?
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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vac lines hooked up?
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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i just did ls swap same thing happened got a new master cylinder and bleed the brakes now it works fine. like you before the swap i did'nt have a problem.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 10:30 AM
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are you 100% sure you reconnected the vac line to the booster. i know its a stupid question but sometimes we all then to over look the obvious.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Donkey85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you 100% sure you reconnected the vac line to the booster. i know its a stupid question but sometimes we all then to over look the obvious.</TD></TR></TABLE>

and if you messed with that vac line did you break the valve or put it in backwards?
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