hello guys im from portugal and i have a 98 itr anda im thinking in buy a toda flywheel can u guys know if i will lose top end speed?? because the less weight of the flywhell thank u very much

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by filipevti &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hello guys im from portugal and i have a 98 itr anda im thinking in buy a toda flywheel can u guys know if i will lose top end speed?? because the less weight of the flywhell thank u very much </TD></TR></TABLE>

No. I've been running a 6lb flywheel for a few years now. There are no downsides that I've seen except you may stall your car more often(2-3 times a year vs never).

 

thank u , because some people say that with a lightwheight flywheel the car will lose top end speed

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by filipevti &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thank u , because some people say that with a lightwheight flywheel the car will lose top end speed </TD></TR></TABLE>

The reason people say this is because with a 6lbs flywheel there is less rotating mass.

The only other issue with these flywheels is the teeth damage easily. Sometimes your car may not start; all you have to do is roll back or forwards a bit to get it to catch.

 

flywheel doesn't change gear ratio. your speed will not be differnt. i have aluminum 8.8lbs w/ replacable centerpiece


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The only other issue with these flywheels is the teeth damage easily. Sometimes your car may not start; all you have to do is roll back or forwards a bit to get it to catch.
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B.S. Not the Toda.

I'm betting you're not speaking from experience.

I am however, and have had the Toda FW for 4 years, absolutely No issues or problems whatsoever, just positive experience. I do remember hearing about something like what you mentioned above related to the Spoon FW several (more than 4) years ago but haven't heard it lately.

 

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B.S. Not the Toda.

I'm betting you're not speaking from experience.

I am however, and have had the Toda FW for 4 years, absolutely No issues or problems whatsoever, just positive experience. I do remember hearing about something like what you mentioned above related to the Spoon FW several (more than 4) years ago but haven't heard it lately.

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On the Toda, teeth are beveled so that when the starter engages, the gear teeth mesh together better. Even with FWs like the Spoon and others which are not beveled, the grinding only occurs when the car is cranked over a few times before it actually starts.
You will not lose topspeed and driveability will not suffer on a 9.1lb unit.

 

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I'm betting you're not speaking from experience.
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you're right... I’m talking about this one time when I was abducted by aliens... the space ship they had was running a toda flywheel and they couldn’t get it to start because the teeth had warn a bit... they made me get out and push

YOU on the other hand... i'm guessing have never been abducted by aliens with a spaceship equiped with a toda flywheel. There flying saurser was parked on a steep incline, it was a bitch to get that ship started.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by orphanageITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you're right... I’m talking about this one time when I was abducted by aliens... the space ship they had was running a toda flywheel and they couldn’t get it to start because the teeth had warn a bit... they made me get out and push

YOU on the other hand... i'm guessing have never been abducted by aliens with a spaceship equiped with a toda flywheel. There flying saurser was parked on a steep incline, it was a bitch to get that ship started.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ROFL... sarcasm ownz

 

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ROFL... sarcasm ownz</TD></TR></TABLE>


yes it does... yes it does

 

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If you have a 2lb flywheel I dont think you would lose top end. I think this myth is based on an incorrect theory. The fact is, increasing rotationmass always makes you go slower, never faster, regardless of the MPH.

 

Guys, I think he's reffering to the actual FD not the FW. That's something that would cause you to loose top end speed.

 

hey guys thank u all for helping me in my doubt it has helped me a lot , now im seriosly thinking in buy the toda flywheel

 

might I suggest an aluminum unit instead?



Unless those are harder to come by than Todas....

 

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YOU on the other hand... i'm guessing have never been abducted by aliens with a spaceship equiped with a toda flywheel. There flying saurser was parked on a steep incline, it was a bitch to get that ship started.
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I gotta admit, you're right. I've both never been abducted by aliens nor have I experienced or heard of this recurring alien phenomena with said flywheel.

I am curious however, was the alien craft equipped with Vtec?

Pardon as I use a crowbar to get my foot unstuck.

 

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Thanks for the clearification there Neo but I still stand, are you sure your not talking about the FD. A FW will never cause you to loose top speed. There is no relevance between the 2 that I can think of.

 

I use a Fidanza aluminum w/ replacable fiction surface with no problems whatsoever. I've been running it for almost two years now.

Sorry to thread jack but does anyone know when I should start thinking about replacing the fiction plate? Anything I should look for that my car is doing that would tell me its time?

 

Do not doubt the Toda.
Its not the lightest one you can get, nor the cheapest, but it is a very good flywheel.

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Sorry to thread jack but does anyone know when I should start thinking about replacing the fiction plate? Anything I should look for that my car is doing that would tell me its time?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would imagine the friction surface on the flywheel will outlast your clutch?
(Unless of course they were done at seperate times, but my thinking was you just check it next time the clutch is being changed...)

 

The ACT Xtreme one is nice too.. Light and cheap. I've had it for a couple years and it's never grinded (ground?) once

As for the spoon... well lets just say I have a nice Spoon Ashtray at this time

 

whats up man .. hows portugal.. trust me roads over there are great for some spirited driving.. im from minho portugal but i live in the states.. dude imo ur itr flywheel is just fine.. i had a lighter flywheel and it was good but not really worth the money.. just stay with what u have and drive the **** out of ur car.. great roads

 

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The only time the surface plate of the flywheel will wear abnormaly is if you have a slipping clutch and glaze the friction surface.

The friction surface will last longer than the clutch, if you dont run into the above situation. The reason they have a removable friction surface is so that you can replace the friction surface when you change the clutch, seeing as they don't give you much material to do a resurfacing, although I was able to get one resurfacing on my Fidanza

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It depends on what you mean by worth it. You are NOT going to feel any difference in acceleration. Lightweight flywheels on a Honda do not do much, considering they are already relatively light from the factory (14lbs for a ITR flywheel VS 39lbs for a Supra). So don't expect to have the car's acceleration increased by any measureable amount.

However, the main benefits I saw are the ease of revv matching and heel-toe operation on track, these become much more fluent and requires less throttle input.

 

^^^^thank you for the response.

 

once more thank u all for helping me, hey danny whats up ,yes the roads here are more or less ,but the cops are constantly bugging us
hey dave_b what is the "FD" sorry i dont understand what is it , can tel me please

 

thank u neo

 

Final drive will change your gear ratio's in relation to the gear your in, thus shortening the gear. You will accelerate faster at the cost of some top speed. The final drive is my personal favorite mod. Makes the car feel like it should have been from the factory.