it seems like usdm swaps should be cheaper than jdm swaps. is this true and where can usdm swaps be purchased.

 

Try a local junkyard or Import Salvage Auto. I think thats what its called.

 

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makes a good GDD topic

are we talking about 92-00 civic/del sol or integras & preludes ?

 

the usdm swaps are cheaper but you do have to remember that they will have more milliage on them than their jdm counter parts, also the JDM engine most likly comes from a car that was simply considered obsolete, rather than stolen or wrecked as the japanese don't generaly see any value in old cars since they are a nation of perfectionists. As for where to find a usdm engine, go to your local scrapyard or ebay.

 

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Ya but most of the millage in a JDM is probably idling in traffic.........

Whatever, JDM will probably give you more of a headache.

 

japan has strict emissions laws that require a lot of people to replace engines or buy new cars a long time before they wear out. that's why there's a lot of jdm motors available. but, if you can find a recently wrecked car with a good motor locally, it'll probably be cheaper.

 

i always found cheaper jdm motors than usdm
b16a2 long block is like 1,500 a jdm b16a can be found around 850

 

b16a2 is a better engine then the b16a.. so thats what its more. Check the miles on the engine, are they the same? does it come with a tranny, ecu, and axles? plus all the other things you will need.

 

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True, but you (not you. I mean people in general) don't know anything about that JDM motor. Sure the guy at hmotors will say blah blah blah, but how you be so sure it wasn't some ricers car that he redlined every gear every day?

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I still have doubts about this theory for some reason

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The USDM B16A2 has a slight lower compression than JDM B16As, so "better" can be debated.

I personally would rather have a legit USDM engine because you can possibly get ahold of a carfax report (I know its not always acurate, but better than nothing like JDMs), you will have a better idea of what the exact mileage is, and you won't have as much of a problem with smog (sensors, ecu etc.), and if you are provided all the paperwork you won't have as much of a hassle with police proving it is a legit engine

 

if you can put any B16 motor in my car for a grand, let me know. JDM, CDM, EUDM, so long as its in good shape.

But yea, USDM parts are better cause there generally easier to put in, thus higher demand.

 

Better, maybe. Easier to get ahold of, yes. Most people would rather drive to go pick a motor up, than have it shipped from a foreign country.

 

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The USDM B16A2 has a slight lower compression than JDM B16As, so "better" can be debated.

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uhhh, the b16a2 has slightly higher compression than the b16 does.. jdm b16 has 10.2-1 cr the usdm b16a2 has 10.4-1 cr.. So in that sense they are better, as far as castings and design..... same. In almost every way. almost. I would go with jdm and replace parts accordingly.

 

what type of smog problems do you get with a jdm swap. ill be living in california soon and thier emmissions are pretty ridiculus.

 

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uhhh, the b16a2 has slightly higher compression than the b16 does.. jdm b16 has 10.2-1 cr the usdm b16a2 has 10.4-1 cr.. So in that sense they are better, as far as castings and design..... same. In almost every way. almost. I would go with jdm and replace parts accordingly. </TD></TR></TABLE>

No its the other way around.

Not really proof but a reference:

http://hmotorsonline.com/shop/...gines

Look at the B16 complete change over

 

i would say plan on finding a unscrupulous smog person if you are living in CA. because you'll have a hard time convincing someone to smog your ****.. especially if you are like me and continually "fixing" things on your car.
jdm motors are missing certain emmissions things which causes a problem if you are planning on legitly smogging it. it really depends on how well you set up your engine after the swap, and how cool your smog guy is.

when it comes to usdm vs. jdm i would say it doesn't really matter, you could get a usdm motor that was owned by some ricer who redlines every gear, or you could get a jdm that was a ricer's engine.. its all just the luck of the draw. the advantage to usdm is that the smog guy will know what engine it is and it will have those emmission things they are supposed to check for.

 

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As long as its a legal swap, then yo ucan get it smogged and registered just fine. To be legal, you must get the replacement engine from a vehicle the same year or newer, and you must put all required american smog equipment on the jdm enigne. Also, the tranny and ECU must match the engine, so if you swap to an identical motor, you can keep your tranny, but if you put a b18c in, you have to use a b18c tranny, not a b16 tranny. Oh, and you have to use an engine that was available here in some car. Specifically car too, which makes the B20 illegal, as the CRV is a light duty truck.

After you do that, a state ref can inspect the car, smog it, and then put a metal plate in the door marking it as a legal swap. Its also then smoged as if it were whatever vehicle the engine came out of. For example, a 92 Civic with a 02 RSX engine would smog as a 02 RSX afterwards.