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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 05:21 AM
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Default VTEC Head instead of an entire engine swap?

I was told that for a 95 DX Civic [non VTEC] I could swap the head and not have to spend money on an entire engine/swap job.

True? False? Semi-true? Give me some guidance here.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 05:40 AM
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Default Re: VTEC Head instead of an entire engine swap? (T3hMetalGear)

Yes. You can swap the head from say a Z6 on there, with VTEC. It's called a mini-me. Search for it on here and you will find endless threads about it.

You CANNOT, however, swap a DOHC head from say a B16 or B18 on there.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 06:04 AM
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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Default Re: VTEC Head instead of an entire engine swap? (tallyturbo)

Can you elaborate upon that?

So youre saying I can swap a non VTEC head [take it off of my engine] and replace with a VTEC head of similar build?
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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Default Re: VTEC Head instead of an entire engine swap? (T3hMetalGear)

Ok, 92-95 Civic Dx tend to come with a D15b7 NON VTEC. 92-95 Civic Ex came with the D16z6 with VTEC. You take the Z6 head and slap it on the DX. 96-00 Civic DX came with a D16Y7 NON VTEC. However the 96-00 EXs like mine came with a D16Y8 with VTEC. You would take the Y8 head and slap it on the DX. Called a mini me swap. After you change the heads you have to add some wires. Its on here somewhere. Might as well save up some more and turbo the engine you have. You wont gain enough HP to make it worth it IMO.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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dont waste your time with a mini me. just boost or go B,H, or KKKKKKKK
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ADVAN EG2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont waste your time with a mini me. just boost or go B,H, or KKKKKKKK</TD></TR></TABLE>

it will give you a tiny lil more power.

you'd probebly be happier with the Si tranny but...

it'll onyl give you a little more power, you'll be craving more in no time.

just save up for a real swap, or boost your existing engine


I say just BOOST
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daniel-sanB1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I say just BOOST</TD></TR></TABLE>

I say try your hand at the swap. Search and read some more on this board, it's an excellent source of information.

If you're anything like me, you learn BETTER by actually doing what you want instead of being told how to do it.

Knowledge is power, and after you do the minime swap you can come here with an ego and flame all the noobs.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2000EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I say try your hand at the swap. Search and read some more on this board, it's an excellent source of information.

If you're anything like me, you learn BETTER by actually doing what you want instead of being told how to do it.

Knowledge is power, and after you do the minime swap you can come here with an ego and flame all the noobs. </TD></TR></TABLE>

YEAh thats the idea. Lets do a mini-me and flame others who dont know how. I personally wouldnt do a mini-me. The money getting the head and whatever it takes to install it can be used tro boost the motor you have.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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do it. then boost. PEER PRESSURE! PEER PRESSURE!
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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Default Re: VTEC Head instead of an entire engine swap? (T3hMetalGear)

d-series vtec isn't worth it.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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dont listen to him, as long as you turbo it is it worth it
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Default Re: VTEC Head instead of an entire engine swap? (mugenpowered)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenpowered &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">d-series vtec isn't worth it.</TD></TR></TABLE> Its true I have D16Y8 which is VTEC. One you cant feel VTEC hit like in DOHC, second you cant even hear it. I say BOOST that ******.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 07:46 AM
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Default Re: VTEC Head instead of an entire engine swap? (97spooncivic)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97spooncivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont listen to him, as long as you turbo it is it worth it</TD></TR></TABLE>
What are you talking about? I am not talking about forced induction, I was saying that on a d-series it is not worth it to spend money on a mini-me. I was not talking about doing a turbo, if someone is going to turbo their d, it would just be an added expense to do a mini-me. If you have unlimited funds then its a different story of course. "As long as you turbo it" anything could be worth it, that is a useless comment. As long as I turbo my car its worth it to get a huge spoiler right?
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 07:49 AM
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Default Re: VTEC Head instead of an entire engine swap? (mugenpowered)

z6 head and tranny then boost it. I should be having all that crap for sale soon haha. no more D-shitty for me
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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boost that ****
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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Its all what you want to do. Honestly I'd do a swap, over a Mini-Me, but if you want to do that, then do it.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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If you're looking for a significant amount of power, a mini-me isn't going to do it for you. You'll end up spending $500 to get maybe 15whp and you'll still be driving a mid-16 second car.

A D16Z6 transmission would be a better investment, as the gear ratios are significantly more fun and allow you to better apply any tiny amount of power you may be making.

A turbocharger would be best, and if you could put one together for under $1000 - which should be simple - you might be able to dip into the high 14's with a good tune.

Modding your engine can go two ways: you can make it expensive and drawn out and end up with nothing but memories and a bad case of "burned out" or you ccan save, be patient and do it right the first time.

Your choice.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcVTECeg2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">boost that **** </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenpowered &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What are you talking about? I am not talking about forced induction, I was saying that on a d-series it is not worth it to spend money on a mini-me. I was not talking about doing a turbo, if someone is going to turbo their d, it would just be an added expense to do a mini-me. If you have unlimited funds then its a different story of course. "As long as you turbo it" anything could be worth it, that is a useless comment. As long as I turbo my car its worth it to get a huge spoiler right? </TD></TR></TABLE>

i was trying to say that it is only worth it if you turbo it. dont do it unless your gonna turbo the motor
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Default Re: VTEC Head instead of an entire engine swap? (97spooncivic)

It's a good thing I covered this topic earlier!

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1315461
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