I took my R into my local Acura dealer with the expectation of having Valve adjustment, Manual Transmission fluid changed and Coolant flushed. I specifically asked the service adviser if the 105 included a valve adjustment.
When I got the car back and looked at the checklist these things were not checked. Everything else that needed to be done was done correctly, so my question is if the list of what I have for the 105,000 mile service is wrong, different or are they trying to scew me over?

Please don't flame me for taking it to a dealer for this work because I wanted the car to have the full check that this service should provide.

 

How much did they charge you for the service?

 

$430 for the service and a break fluid flush/change. The brakes feel great now.

 

dood those are totally things you can do yourself and save yourself half a grand. if you dont know how, pick up a manual and post any questions you might have here in the forum sorry I dont have an answer for your question though.

 

It's a 15,000 mile service. Should be just inspection, oil change, top fluids.

 

ouch, i would imagine for the price that those items you mentioned should be checked

 

I know I can do the work but the car needed an alignment/wheel balancing and break fluid flush, and oil, transmission fluid, valve adjustment and everything else. I don't really have the time to do it at work plus its freezing.

It doesn't seem a bad price if they do everything I wanted done. thats why I'm asking if I was misled or misinformed.

 

According to the Helms at 105k:

Severe conditions:

1. Clean air filter
2. Replace coolant
3. Check parking brake adjustment
4. Visually inspect:
a. fluid levels
b. hoses
c. fuel lines
d. exhaust
e. Brakes (every 7500 miles)
5. Change oil


Normal:
As above minus brake inspection every 7500 miles

Valves should have been adjusted at 90,000 miles for BOTH severe and normal driving conditions.

HTH

 

Ok, thanks everyone.

 

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When I got the car back and looked at the checklist these things were not checked. Everything else that needed to be done was done correctly, so my question is if the list of what I have for the 105,000 mile service is wrong, different or are they trying to scew me over?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, first of all, the recommended maintenance schedule is different for the '97-98 ITR from the one for my '01 (I don't know if they changed it between '98 and '00 or between '00 and '01). So it would help if you tell us which year ITR you have.

The '97-98 manuals tell you to inspect (which means adjust) the valve clearances at 30K/60K/90K/etc miles; if you had it done at 90K, you would not need it now. The '01 manuals tell you to do it at 105K miles, and before that only if they are noisy.

The '97-98 manuals tell you to flush the transmission fluid at 90K miles, so if you had that done at 90K, you would not need it now. The '01 manual tells you to do it at 120K miles, so you would not need it yet.

The manuals for the '97-98 tell you to flush the coolant at 45K/75K/105K/etc miles. It also tells you to replace the timing belt at 105K miles, and when most mechanics replace the timing belt, they also replace the water pump and flush the coolant at the same time. So, if you have recently had your timing belt replaced, and they also replaced the water pump, that would change the intervals for changing the coolant. (For example, if you had the coolant replaced at 90K, you don't need to do it again until 120K, even though it's part of the "105K service".)

The manual for my '01 tells you to flush the coolant after 120K miles, then every 60K miles. I assume this is because they changed the kind of coolant they use (I think maybe from the green stuff to the orange stuff?). But it also says to replace the timing belt at 105K miles, and the coolant would often be replaced along with the water pump at that time.

There are also time intervals associated with these services, and those time intervals are appropriate for those who are driving less than 15K miles per year, which does not apply to you.

Some dealerships don't always follow the schedule in the manuals; often they have their own schedule (which sometimes involves doing some services more frequently). I find that, even if you don't do your own service, it's a good idea to keep track of when things are done by specific services, rather than by the intervals ("105K service") so you know exactly what is being done when, and you can decide when each step is performed.

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That's extremely UNhelpful. Sure, he can do services yourself - but not everyone has the time, or the tools, or the location, or the inclination to do the work himself. Don't diss someone for being a different person than you, and wanting to do things differently.

 

Wow, thanks for all the info! The car is an '01. What I gather is that the valves should have been done, the coolant was done with the timing belt at 88k and the transmission fluid was not done and wasn't part of the service. I checked my records for the timing belt to verify the coolant change.

I think RTWDC2 was just trying to be supportive. I appreciate everyone's help.

 

The recommended maintenance schedule appears in both the owner's manual and the service manual. In case you don't have an owner's manual, you can get one here ($34, part number 31ST7671). You can also buy a service manual from that site. The service manual for a 2001 ITR consists of two documents: the 1998 Integra Service Manual ($64, part number 61ST705), plus the 2001 Integra 3 And 4 Door Service Manual Supplement ($38, part number 61ST708). The 2001 supplement is supposed to contain all the information that changed from the 1998 service manual; it should contain the revised maintenance schedule for the 2001 (I don't have mine handy, so I can't swear that it does).

HTH

 

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HTH
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Good info.


Ed 341,

Most of the folks here tend to be a little more frequent with some of the maintenance. For instance the manual recommends vavle lash adjustments every 30,000 miles but most here probably do this more often. I personally like to do a valve adjustment every 15,000 miles and replace all of the fluids at about 1/2 the interval recommended. If you have the interest and a few simple tools (except for valve lash adjustment) it is really very easy to work on these cars. Nsxtasy mentioned the shop manual information above. It's been worth its weight in gold to me for doing just about anything to my car.

 

I took the Type R for a spirited drive when I got home from work today, and it feels brand new. The engine is smother and more responsive(feels a little more powerful), the suspension feels tighter(like they actually did tighten all the bolts) and the brakes feel a lot firmer and have a stronger bite. After taking some great corners and opening it up a few times I think the cost of the service was worth it.

 

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That's extremely UNhelpful. Sure, he can do services yourself - but not everyone has the time, or the tools, or the location, or the inclination to do the work himself. Don't diss someone for being a different person than you, and wanting to do things differently.
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You're kidding me right? You somehow extracted from my statement that I was dissing him because he was different then me? Where do you get off implying that? I think its fairly obvious I was not trying to "diss" him in my response, and very rarely am I on this board trying to diss anyone for anything unless its deserved. I was merely stating that if this person wasnt sure if the work could be done himself, then those are things that many of us here can help with...much the same way I have learned to do just about everything myself.

 

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Ed, no shame in bringing the car in for service. Just like Ryan said, we're all here to help one another. There's *** loads of thing that I didn't know how to do myself and now I think I can hold my own when it comes to basicc repairs

Like everyone else said, if your car has had its regular maintenance I do not beleive a valve adjustment is warranted @ 105k.