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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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I'm really in doubt of the range of Matrix 10.5x that I just installed. I can only arm my car like right outside of my house. Is this how I test the range? I know this is just the signal that send to the reciever, but is it the same when the remote recieve signals?

In common case, how far does this goes? I heard it says a good seven minute walk for remote start???
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In common case, how far does this goes? I heard it says a good seven minute walk for remote start??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

WTF did you just say???
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 06:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C_EJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

WTF did you just say??? </TD></TR></TABLE> Come on that was an easy one, he said........

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 06:51 AM
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Ohhhh!! Now I get it... Thanks for clarifying...
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C_EJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ohhhh!! Now I get it... Thanks for clarifying... </TD></TR></TABLE>N/P BTW..... do you think we have too much time on our hands? 94
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BTW..... do you think we have too much time on our hands?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Definitely.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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I was just trying ask what is the range of this alarm, and hoping if some other people would share some experiences. Never expect to get such flame on. I did some posts in here and also before I bought it. I would apologize for some wording problems, but pleause don't make this a suck *** forum, and act like some dicks.

Here is what I'm coming from about it says good seven minute walk!
http://www.clifford.com/matrix/timeArticle.asp

don't answer if you wouldn't make any constructive replies to this thread.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dongoesby &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was just trying ask what is the range of this alarm, and hoping if some other people would share some experiences. Never expect to get such flame on. I did some posts in here and also before I bought it. I would apologize for some wording problems, but pleause don't make this a suck *** forum, and act like some dicks.

Here is what I'm coming from about it says good seven minute walk!
http://www.clifford.com/matrix/timeArticle.asp

don't answer if you wouldn't make any constructive replies to this thread.</TD></TR></TABLE> Keep your panties on pal, we was just funin with you, calling us dicks is not going to get you squat.
You are kind of thin skinned if you think that was "flaming" your not going to like us if we get mad.

It's barely been 24 hr. since your post, give us a break, we spend a lot of time here, and when a post like yours comes up, we have some fun, we could have been dicks and realy flamed you, and **** all over you, and probably got a whole bunch of others to come here and taken a **** also, but unlike you, our response was not to call you names, but maybe you would prefer, "please clarify dick head" or something along that line

PS, you have a problem with your system, either the remote, or the alarms RF section, or the ant. or how it's installed.
Take it back to where you had it installed and have them check it out, it has a lifetime warranty on the brain and one year on the remote, and should have a lifetime warranty on the install if installed at an authorized shop 94
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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thanks, that is the info I'm hoping to get, and I will definitely bring it back to check. The installer was in a rush putting it on, and the siren was installed very obviously, and the hood pin made the hood extremely hard to close. Anyways, I appreciated for your replies, really. I did asked for many helps in here before I bought this alarm, and FCM you did give me very helpful describtions. I never get flame on or any "funzzie" on me so far I'd around in HT, so no offensive. I really appreciate for helping answering my questions.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 04:17 AM
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That article also says "in open country", which means line of sight, no interference, etc...
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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I'm starting to lose faith in those advertised remote ranges. The only range they actually fulfil is the BS range. I know this is in "open country", but who lives these days in open countries??? Besides, even if you do live there, then you're most likely driving a horse or if you're less fortunate - a stupid donkey. Now what hair color is the tach sense?? Anyway, it's pretty useless to rely on those advertised ranges, unless you're comparing one alarm/rs to another, then it should give you an idea what has a better or worse range.

From my experience, it seems as if you just take the advertised range and divide it by 10, to get the real thing. I own a Compustar for 1.5 years now and 1.25 miles is BS!! This next time, I tried to go to a cheapo alarm/rs and bought an Asianwolf 20096 ($65 ebay, shipped), advertised range 1000 feet. The best I get is maybe 100 feet! Now, that would be a lot harder to sell with "100 feet!!!" on the box, would it?
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Odessa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm starting to lose faith in those advertised remote ranges. The only range they actually fulfil is the BS range. I know this is in "open country", but who lives these days in open countries??? Besides, even if you do live there, then you're most likely driving a horse or if you're less fortunate - a stupid donkey. Now what hair color is the tach sense?? Anyway, it's pretty useless to rely on those advertised ranges, unless you're comparing one alarm/rs to another, then it should give you an idea what has a better or worse range.

From my experience, it seems as if you just take the advertised range and divide it by 10, to get the real thing. I own a Compustar for 1.5 years now and 1.25 miles is BS!! This next time, I tried to go to a cheapo alarm/rs and bought an Asianwolf 20096 ($65 ebay, shipped), advertised range 1000 feet. The best I get is maybe 100 feet! Now, that would be a lot harder to sell with "100 feet!!!" on the box, would it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think the ranges are kind of like a lot of amplifier power ratings. They're just numbers that come from a lab where everything is under totally ideal conditions. The real world however....is not even close to being ideal.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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I only wish they had some "optional" system to add, like maybe a "range amplifier", that would make your normal range extend 10 times. I'm sure a lot of people would buy it.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now what hair color is the tach sense??</TD></TR></TABLE>

What?
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C_EJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nothing.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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Yes, advertising describtion really kill somebody. Well, that article seems sort of like an review, so I thought it is unbais. But oh well, I went to the installer and check, and yes, the range sending from remote to the car is same as the car sending to the reciever. We sat down talked a little while he's having breakfast, I noticed the range is fine, nothing wrong, that is normal because the concrete walls and wireless interference and etc. Just a bit disappointed now. I didn't expect it is any extremely large range before i bought it, but didn't know it is such short range. Maybe it is good for those who don't have a garage, and parking on the street, so the remote can wake him/her up.

did I say the owner will hear the siren screem next to his/her bedroom window?
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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Sounds like the installer did a shitty job. If he didnt give you the installation manual, download it from the12volt.com, and read the antenna section. Then move the antenna yourself. It can't be encased in metal, and it has to be as high up as possible. The antenna wire should be uncoiled and stretched out as much as possible. I would also check the power and ground connections. I have got some pretty impressive range out of the Viper alarms (same as Clifford Matrix), but not all cars/installs are the same.

I have a hatch with a factory spoiler. I put the antenna inside so that it's technically outside the vehicle. I had to buy a dipolar antenna extension to do this.

And work on your grammar. This is a written forum, so basic english skills are vital to communication. You're lucky these guys got to you first cuz I wouldn't have been nearly as kind.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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Any pic of what you did.

And yea, I noticed what I wrote in here is sort of messed up, just think and type at the sametime, didn't think too much about grammar since I see lotz others just use "forum language" hope u understand
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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The reason they advertise open space is because this is all they can garantee. It would be to difficult for a company to predict your complex environment. Everything can effect range, buildings, cars, other people on the same frequency, wether lightning is in the area, the type of building you are in the list goes on and on...

They only thing they can predict is if you remove all this you get x range. Start adding above interference then the range is reduced, the more of the above interference you add the more the range is reduced.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 11:58 PM
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my DEI "venom" was awesome with range, and the antenna was inder the dash. Now my "viper" still dei, with a nicer install and the antenna in the window gets like maybe half the range my other one did. Pisses me off... Yeah in an open field for a mile you might be able to get signal, the average person runs a mile in what, 7 mins? For ***** sake lets say 8 minutes. If your pager paged you and you were running to your car on flat ground for a mile, you would see the guy breaking into your car, ripping out your CD player, and when you finally got there he'd have already got back in his car and drove off. Can you imagine how pissed off you would be if you watched someone jack your ****??
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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You could start your car from a mile away, and by the time you get to it, it will be all warmed up. Or sometimes your passengers want to get something out of your car. It's safer and easier to unlock the door for them from distance than letting them handle the pager to unlock and lock the car. And even if someone does steal my car before I have the time to get to it, then I can report to the police as soon as possible before they strip the hell out of it.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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i didnt say I wouldnt like to have a mile range, i just thought it would be fucked up to watch someone steal your stuff.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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Since this thread is up again, I like to say that my alarm range is really really SUX! I can see my car clearly in an open parking lot, and the remote didn't work!!! sometimes when I pointed certain angle it works... It was like 4/5 cars length... USELESS...very disappointed!
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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mine works wonderful. I was in Chuck E cheese tonight and in the bathroom and my car was at the end of the parking lot. it caught the signal.

I was close to and 1/8th mile away at my job it caught. Inside JC penny in the mall. It didn't catch at first then I moved from this huge pillar support and it caught the signal.

Maybe you need to hold it a little more, the button that is. some times if you press it too quick it doesn't catch. hold it for like a sec. make sure your Batt. is completly full. If i lose 1 cell i get another battery, just the time i let the battery slip is the time I wont get my page becuase of a battery. also were is the attena located on yours. should be in the windsheils at the top
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 08:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dongoesby &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Since this thread is up again, I like to say that my alarm range is really really SUX! I can see my car clearly in an open parking lot, and the remote didn't work!!! sometimes when I pointed certain angle it works... It was like 4/5 cars length... USELESS...very disappointed! </TD></TR></TABLE> As I said before you have a problem, no matter what the installer told you at breakfast, "4/5" car lengths for a Matrix 10.5x or any 2way paging alarm is pathetic and kind of pointless. 94
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