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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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hey was up i was wondering if i was able to put 15" wheels in the front of my RSX-S. Thanks
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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What timing...

I'm just finding out that Team Dynamics Pro Race 1 wheels will fit, even in the 15" size. The just barely clear the calipers on a JDM ITR with Brembo brakes, so they'll fit more safely (although still close, I'm sure) on Type-S hubs.

Apart from those, and JDM SSR Comps, I'm really not too sure.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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Nice, got a link.

Would be perfect for a set of slicks. Hope their not too expensive.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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what about stock wheels cuse my friend is trying to sell my brother stock accord 15" wheels so he can put drag slick on them.i suppose there stealies most likely
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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Probably won't clear the stock calipers as most 15" wheels don't. Some people will shave down the calipers, removing a unharmful amount of metal. I personally am trying to avoid this.

Cliff Notes- Yes, but not without slight modification. Also don't have the offset and bolt pattern off hand for those wheels.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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Team Dynamics's site:
http://www.teamdynamicsracing....k.htm

One retailer in the US (there are many others, too):
http://www.frisbyracetire.com/

They sell for less than 150 bucks each. Many offsets and bolt patterns available.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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damn those dont even look like 15s! i'm sure if it clears those giant brembos the type-s should be no problem
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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DAMN that is tight. Why the hell would you want to put 15s on that car? your speedo will be off unless you actaully run like a ****** 60 profile tire, which ***** the handling.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 12:08 AM
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my brother is gonna put these 15" for drag only. hes gonna wrap them in drag slick and have his other rims for daily driving. hes not gonna use the 15"s for daily driving.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 12:08 AM
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o and nice car
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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well may I reccomend putting on like...Civic EX brakes? Redrill em to 4x100 then you could fit 14s, and the weight would be a little less (tho the tire would be heavier)
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:20 AM
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Its not a matter of weight for drag racing, its the fact that no companies make a 16" slick. Therefore we have to go down to a smaller wheel just to be able to run slicks.

Thanks for the link, also.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redline96LX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">DAMN that is tight. Why the hell would you want to put 15s on that car? your speedo will be off unless you actaully run like a ****** 60 profile tire, which ***** the handling. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Several reasons, and not just for drag racing, either...

You can fit a 225-width tire on there, so you'll still get more meat on the road. It'll have to be a 225/50 if you want the speedo to be normal, and even though the 50 profile is a smaller number, it's still as tall of a profile as the stock 195/60 for the '02-03 EP's (which is what I've got).

And, as has been said, there are fewer performance tires in 16" sizes, especially in the 225/45 sizes I'd need if I wanted them to double as summer tires. The Tire Rack lists a total of seven tires in 225/45-16, for example, and only a couple of them are what I'd consider competition-ready street tires. In the 225/50-15 size, Tire Rack lists 23 tires, including R-compounds like Hoosiers and Kumho Victoracers.

Also... if these are for track days and autocrossing... you won't need to worry about speedometer accuracy. You could get lower, wider tires that'll shorten the gearing, and combined with 15's, they'll have less inertia than 16" wheels.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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I'm thinking about this more...

If I get more serious about this autocross thing, I'll probably do best to use wheels other than 16's. I'd rather not have to go with 17's, and since these seem to fit, they'll be my best option. I could always go with bigger tires for 16's, but they would just slow me down -- I need all the help I can get!
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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I'd be very carefull if I had to do that setup. I'd keep it to track only for the DC5R Brembos and 15" wheels. When I put on my JDM 16's, they were close enough! It's too risky for the street. You mess up a wheel, it will def mess up your caliper and then sum!

But if that wheel will fir the DC5R Brembo, it will def fit the DC5S caliper.

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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if you go with autocross, go with a bigger wheel. 17s definatly. Get light ones tho of course, and dont ever let a weight ***** tell you 17s are SO heavy. Cause nowadays, goin 2 inches bigger on a rim, you can STILL have a light rim, where with a 15 (unless its SUPER light like a expensive spoon) they can make rims lighter (less dense) than tires. My friends rims on his 4-runner are 16s, there like 20lbs a piece, but the ****** tire weights the same. if you get lightweight rims, your tire is still heavy. they dont make "light" tires. so if you can go up 2 inches and pay for light rims so its as light, or 1lb more, then youve more than made up with it in less rubber.

My 16s on my civic are 21lbs. but compared to the stock steelies at 18lbs (the 14") the wheel/tire combo now is lighter, and more of the weight is farther from the wheel, so the car tracks better (cause the wheel is a gyro.)

Also, low profiles are better.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redline96LX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you go with autocross, go with a bigger wheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You almost never see the fast drivers with bigger wheels on their cars unless they need them to fit over their brakes. Well, at least not the National-level drivers around here.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My 16s on my civic are 21lbs. but compared to the stock steelies at 18lbs (the 14") the wheel/tire combo now is lighter, and more of the weight is farther from the wheel, so the car tracks better (cause the wheel is a gyro.)</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's exactly why the bigger wheels won't be as good -- more weight farther out. If you take the same weight and concentrate it more towards the center, it'll have less rotational inertia, and will accelerate more quickly.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, low profiles are better.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes they are. With 16's, I'm severely limited in tire choices if I try to go with a lower profile. On 15's, I can go lower and get a whole bunch of tires to choose from.

Besides, as I mentioned earlier, speedometer error really doesn't matter on the track. I've never hit the rev limiter yet in 2nd gear on stock circumference tires, so I don't think that lower-profile tires on 15's would be a problem.

Between 15's, 16's, and 17's, and given the same sidewall profile on each, the 15's will be better autocross wheels.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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Autocross is huge, how "limited" on tires are you?

My skool's formula team runs 10s or 13s, we find what we need to.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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To fit on 16" rims in a reasonable size for me (in this case, 225/45), the stickiest tire I've seen listed is an Advan A048. There's the Potenza S-03, too, but the others I'd class as mainly street tires.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...0&y=9

I could fit a taller profile if I had to, but I'd rather not. 225/50-16 is the same circumference as the stock RSX tires I've got (and same as the 04-05 EP's), but they still feel on the big side. I've got 205/55-16 on there now, and I strongly suspect that if they were any wider, I'd have rubbing problems. The good thing is that 225/50-16 gives me 49 choices from Tire Rack, including R-comps.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...=None

If I tried to go with 225/40-16, however, I've got very few choices. Tire Rack only lists the Kumho 712.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...=None

Back to 15's... if I put on 225/50-15's (closest to stock circumference), I've got 21 to choose from, including a few R-comps.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...nce=C

225/45-15 gets me a few competition tires, too -- at a smaller overall size than any 16" tires:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...=None

I can't go to the max allowable width in STX just because 245-width tires won't fit in the wheel wells safely. That's why I'm restricting my searches to 225-width tires in stock circumference or smaller.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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cause if you were going to drag racing, they make slicks in a lot of sizes.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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I'm not drag racing anymore, though. I'm tired of it, and I'm not going to sink another few thousand into the car just to make the next leap in e/t's and trap speeds.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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well drop a grand into a bitchin stereo with a LCD screen, bring your *** to Alpharetta, and we'll flex.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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ANYWAY.... back on topic (sorry to let the non-drag discussion.. um... drag on..)..

So, yeah, there's at least one model of 15" wheel that would fit on a Type-S. Thankfully, it's not expensive, either. If I were in your position, 5poonhatch, I'd test fit as many as I could get my hands on.
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