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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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I heard that you can remove the EGR system? I have a problem with my EGR valve and im looking to get rid of it. Is it hard to do and how is it done???
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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Default Re: EGR Removal???? can it be done and how hard? (r1de4life)

You have OBD1 or OBD2? With OBD1 you could buy a block-off plate to cover the hole. Been done. With OBD2 I don't think you could run the car without it, you will have a code.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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OBD1 will still have a code, but the actual EGR valve can be unbolted and moved as long as it's still plugged in.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hawkze_2.3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OBD1 will still have a code</TD></TR></TABLE>

interesting, i always thought that obd-1 could run without egr and still have no CEL. is there a way to keep the stock ecu and remove/block the egr without having a CEL? sorry, didn't mean to thread jack... just curious.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BB6racer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

interesting, i always thought that obd-1 could run without egr and still have no CEL. is there a way to keep the stock ecu and remove/block the egr without having a CEL? sorry, didn't mean to thread jack... just curious.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, when I unplug mine (OBD1) I will get a code after a few minutes of driving. It's just an EGR code and doesn't hurt anything, but still... The only way I know of to delete without a code is to run a standalone ECU or I'm sure there are ways to mod the stock ECU....
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hawkze_2.3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yeah, when I unplug mine (OBD1) I will get a code after a few minutes of driving. It's just an EGR code and doesn't hurt anything, but still... The only way I know of to delete without a code is to run a standalone ECU or I'm sure there are ways to mod the stock ECU....</TD></TR></TABLE>

same here.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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P72 chipped with neptune and egr block off plate = no cel
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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what do you mean by running a standalone ECU?
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by r1de4life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what do you mean by running a standalone ECU?</TD></TR></TABLE>

An aftermarket replacement ECU that is made for tuning & performance purposes like an AEM EMS, Motec, etc that plugs into a laptop computer and lets you control every aspect of your cars electronics. They're expensive, but all you'd have to is press a button and the ECU wouldn't care if you had an EGR or not...
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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^ you can also use a p28 ecu and get hondata or neptune. I dont thing the p28 ecu has a egr.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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I have a Cipped P13 ECU. Will that work?
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by r1de4life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a Cipped P13 ECU. Will that work?</TD></TR></TABLE>

no, it still needs the EGR.

right now my egr hangs against the firewall, no code and it doesnt cause problems.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:55 AM
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are the vac lines still hooked up to the egr? if not, which ones did you have to cap and which ones should stay open?
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 05:26 AM
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i left every thign still hooked up, if you remove any electrical or vacuum connections you get a code 12.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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I have a block off plate on mine but it doesnt throw a code. I got this intake manifold from someone else tho so i didnt do it myself. How much of a performance gain is this from disconnecting EGR?
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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if the egr is owrking right you get absolutely no performance gain from not having it. the egr system allows for better emissions and for more advance timing at part throttle operation. this allows for the better emissions as as well as presumably better fuel economy.

the only way the egr can hurt performance is if it becoem stuck open.
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