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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 06:36 PM
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Does anyone have more info on CryCO2. Its made by DEI just barely caught some footage of it on TV... google didn't help too much
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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What do you need to know? What part to you plan on cryo'ng? There was a thread in the RR forum a while back about the advantage and disadvantages of it. HTH.
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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by more info i mean compared to nitrous.. which is best for an ITR which provides more hp or can you use the both at once?
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daconchslop &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">by more info i mean compared to nitrous.. which is best for an ITR which provides more hp or can you use the both at once?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Um...I think your seriously confused on this or maybe you know something I dont. As far as I know it is a process of freezing whatever metal you want to make it much more durable. It has something to do with lining the atoms at their polls to make the metal much much stronger.
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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DEI is http://www.designengineering.com.
The product you were asking about is CryO2.
According to website:

The CryO² is a revolutionary new, award wining product designed to reduce the temperature of the air/fuel intake charge thus creating power. Through the science of aerodynamics and cryogenics, Design Engineering has developed a system to harness the cryogenic properties of liquid Co² to lower the air/fuel intake charge by up to 60%.
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by andyt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">DEI is http://www.designengineering.com.
The product you were asking about is CryO2.
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The CryO² is a revolutionary new, award wining product designed to reduce the temperature of the air/fuel intake charge thus creating power. Through the science of aerodynamics and cryogenics, Design Engineering has developed a system to harness the cryogenic properties of liquid Co² to lower the air/fuel intake charge by up to 60%. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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sounds sorta like that intake that cools air down with freon lol.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 07:35 AM
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I know that they market it for alot of intercooler/turbo applications but how well is it for just NA.... which is better NOS or CRYO2
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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really trying to find this out cause it would be SO much easier to fill here in the islands than NOS
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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Reminds me of the new lightning AC feature. The lightning takes the A/C's cold charge and forces it into the intercooler to create a drastic drop in intake temps, thus creating a 50 HP boost for up to 30 seconds before the system has to recharge. I dunno though, I personally wouldn't do either.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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Any drawbacks?
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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drawbacks...

It runs out quickly just like nitrous --- we'd have to keep refilling it.

It'd be much cooler if it were nearly self-sustained...but that'd require a lot of weight addition.

I guess we could look into efficient cooling tech such as stirling cycle engines, and try to keep weight to a minimum ---&gt; wouldn't work at all times though...
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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Is the function of this CryC02 stuff only to cool the intake temperature? Because N02 does that also, although i'm not sure if the N02 cools as much as CryO2. But does the CO2 seperate inside the engine leaving extra 02 like N02 does to combust with the fuel? If it doesnt do that, then i'd say Nitrous is better because it brings down temps and it supplies extra oxygen. If CryC02 does too, then it might be better than nitrous depending on how much more it cools intake temps and how much extra 02 it gives.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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wow this is the first time i've even heard of this
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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hmm when i first saw this in a view magazines i just assumed it was just some other unknown-brand nitrous. now that i read about it wow was i ever wrong

sounds interesting... like PTskater944 it could perform better than nitrous but IMO its just another soon-to-be ricer thing
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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There is no reason why you couldnt use CryO2 and NOS at the same time, they are doing different things. I would think that NOS would provide more HP, but its sort of dumb to compare two products in different price ranges that do totally seperate things.
It sure sounds to me like if you want small HP gains and the l33t look of a nitrous purge then CryO2 is for you...
I think some of their other products look more interesting, like the heat wrap.
Does that stuff have a positive effect? Or another waste-of-money-for-the-look kinda thing?
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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I would only buy products that offer full time performance..aka boost... Unless you into dragging then i wouldn't mess with.

If you want to use CO2, go buy a turbo and hook the CO2 up the intercooler.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PTskater944 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But does the CO2 seperate inside the engine leaving extra 02 like N02 does to combust with the fuel?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, the CO2 will not dissociate, as CO2 is the intended product of combusting a hydrocarbon.

This is the same as icing your intercooler with dry ice. This sytem just has a lot more engineering. Too much cooling of the intake charge could adversely affect the fuel atomization. N2O has a similar cooling effect and is far superior due to the extra oxygen that it introduces into the combustion chamber.
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