JDM front end foglights useless?
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Well the other night I had my first HEAVY A$$ fog experience for about 10 miles near Huntington Beach....
I switched the yellow fogs on and off and realized that it is much harder to see with them ON. It creates a very spread out yellow haze making it quite difficult to see further ahead.
Am I taking the concept of "fog light" wrong?
I switched the yellow fogs on and off and realized that it is much harder to see with them ON. It creates a very spread out yellow haze making it quite difficult to see further ahead.
Am I taking the concept of "fog light" wrong?
Are your headlights leveled correctly? They (the fog lights) are supposed to light the road immediately in front of you. Your normal lights especially hi beams are kind of useless in fog because the fog reflects the light back at you giving off the same glare you just described.
Where your hi beams on also?
Where your hi beams on also?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by warwagon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no no keep your head lights on... just sounds like you need to adjust the fogs</TD></TR></TABLE>
when i had my 01 R with the jdm front end, i went through some really thick fog in central california. they worked great for me. try aiming them down a bit.
when i had my 01 R with the jdm front end, i went through some really thick fog in central california. they worked great for me. try aiming them down a bit.
probably have to physically change their angle to go lower.
found a few sites on google about this.. but heres part of one.. maybe itll answer your ? some
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by a website »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Tom: Fog lights are low-mounted lights (bumper level or below) that project light that's cut off at the top. So the light pattern on a good-quality fog light goes straight out at bumper level and down, but not higher than that.
Ray: The reason for this is that fog tends to hover about 12 to 18 inches off the ground. So by projecting light in that fog-free pocket, you can illuminate the road a greater distance from your car and therefore see farther ahead. Some people swear by fog lights. Others claim that they don't really make much difference.
Tom: So the question becomes, to yellow or not to yellow? There's a lot of debate about this, but the research says that yellow lights are no better than white lights at penetrating fog. The theory bandied about was that yellow light has a longer wavelength and is therefore less likely to be reflected by the fog particles. Turns out, this is complete poppycock.
Ray: Apparently, the fog particles themselves are so big that they reflect all colors of light. Basically, all light bounces off of them, so using yellow light instead of white light gives you no advantage.
Tom: Plus, in order to get yellow light, what fog-light manufacturers do is put a yellow lens over a white light. That cuts your light output by 20 percent to 30 percent, which is counterproductive.
Ray: So if you live in a coastal area where fog is a real problem and you want to give fog lights a try, we'd suggest a set of high-quality, white fog lights that are professionally mounted to be sure they're aimed correctly. And don't forget to check their aim periodically. Since they're mounted low, they can be knocked out of alignment when you run over things like snow banks and stalled Toyotas. </TD></TR></TABLE>
found a few sites on google about this.. but heres part of one.. maybe itll answer your ? some
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by a website »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Tom: Fog lights are low-mounted lights (bumper level or below) that project light that's cut off at the top. So the light pattern on a good-quality fog light goes straight out at bumper level and down, but not higher than that.
Ray: The reason for this is that fog tends to hover about 12 to 18 inches off the ground. So by projecting light in that fog-free pocket, you can illuminate the road a greater distance from your car and therefore see farther ahead. Some people swear by fog lights. Others claim that they don't really make much difference.
Tom: So the question becomes, to yellow or not to yellow? There's a lot of debate about this, but the research says that yellow lights are no better than white lights at penetrating fog. The theory bandied about was that yellow light has a longer wavelength and is therefore less likely to be reflected by the fog particles. Turns out, this is complete poppycock.
Ray: Apparently, the fog particles themselves are so big that they reflect all colors of light. Basically, all light bounces off of them, so using yellow light instead of white light gives you no advantage.
Tom: Plus, in order to get yellow light, what fog-light manufacturers do is put a yellow lens over a white light. That cuts your light output by 20 percent to 30 percent, which is counterproductive.
Ray: So if you live in a coastal area where fog is a real problem and you want to give fog lights a try, we'd suggest a set of high-quality, white fog lights that are professionally mounted to be sure they're aimed correctly. And don't forget to check their aim periodically. Since they're mounted low, they can be knocked out of alignment when you run over things like snow banks and stalled Toyotas. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by neo_ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Owned</TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL i didnt even read that last sentence until just now
LOL i didnt even read that last sentence until just now
Ideally, fog lamps should be used with only parking or city lights switched on, so that the low (dipped) beams do not interfere with their functioning. I have no first-hand experience with the JDM Integra fog lamps, so I can't speak to the quality of their beam pattern. However, you may have simply been in a situation where visibility would have been extremely limited regardless of how well the fog lamps performed.
What up Kyle!
As far as the JDM fogs.....they don't really do much in the **** we see up here. In light fog they are good, but when it gets heavy they are pretty useless. I've been driving with them for like 5 years. And although I think they look cool when they are on, I think they are of more benefit for those who don't have the OEM HID.
OEM HID is all I really need. But I used to turn on the fogs because I liked em. But now since my car was stolen I cant get them to work anymore
As far as the JDM fogs.....they don't really do much in the **** we see up here. In light fog they are good, but when it gets heavy they are pretty useless. I've been driving with them for like 5 years. And although I think they look cool when they are on, I think they are of more benefit for those who don't have the OEM HID.
OEM HID is all I really need. But I used to turn on the fogs because I liked em. But now since my car was stolen I cant get them to work anymore
My JDM fogs light up the ground for about 3 to 5 meters in front of the car and nothing else, so its possible yours need adjusting. Theres a separate adjustment toothed wheel thingy for the foglights so park your car approx 3 to 5 meters from a wall (at night) and adjust them so that the fog light beam only lights up the very bottom of the wall.
(I know the US still uses outdated imperial distances, so 1 meter = 1 yard approx)
(I know the US still uses outdated imperial distances, so 1 meter = 1 yard approx)
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Wasup Ken! Long time no see. Sorry to hear about the loss/recovery.
Anyway thanks for the tips. Im guessing the problem was the adjustment. It just seemed to turn everything into a big haze becuase it was aimed way too high.
Anyway thanks for the tips. Im guessing the problem was the adjustment. It just seemed to turn everything into a big haze becuase it was aimed way too high.
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