Ok, after many trial and tribulations, The Hy-Tech header is on and working.

Problem, it touchs (well, pretty much smothers) the brace on the bottom of the motor between the block and the tranny. My instinct is to keep a piece the factory installed. My question is, should I replace it with a B16A brace or notch it with a die grinder for more clearance. My friend wants to make me a killer deal(errr rip me off) and trade straight accross for his b16A.

 

SMS header is the same way , Dave told me his header will not clear the ITR tranny shield/brace.

 

Wht did he tell you to do with it.

 

The first production version required modification to the brace. The second version sacrificed some ground clearance so no modification would be needed. Now the third and latest version does clear and does not require any modifications to the brace, it is close but doesn't touch. Ground clearance is much improved compared to the first and second versions. It is comparable to the ITR JDM header and maybe just a tad better. Here are some pictures of the 3rd version prior to coating. This header will be installed Saturday with a race exhaust and I'll try to get some better pictures.

On the jig

On the car

 

Sweet work Dave!

 

here is a picture of my smsp header for comparison.(second version)

 

I am inspired to make more money in my profession to build a motor worthy of this header.....

 

This doesn't really answer the question of what should he do now with what he has?

CB

 

wow, just curious... where are the jackstands postioned to support the car? never knew we could lift from that portion of the chassis.

 

I guess that is something for HyTech to answer, but I think I remember reading that the customers were notching their braces so I guess that's what I would do. I know I wouldn't keep the thing bolted down tight if there was interference with a tube against the brace since you would be stressing a weld(s).


I believe we had the jack stands on the cross member near the lower control arm mounting points.

 

yeah, just notch it, at least that's what John's gonna be doing to my car when I get it installed

 

You can notch or get the other brace, either way works, but don't just bolt it down while it's hitting the brace. You could damage the header.

As for Dave's work, I'm the first to get this tube configuration from him. It really is a work of art. We'll snap some shots this weekend, and maybe take some sound clips from outside the car. If you want to hear the race exhaust from inside the car, just take a look at the video link in my sig.

I give Dave's stuff a big thumbs up!

Warren

 

Send me the brace and we will notch it out to clear.


[Modified by hitechex, 8:39 PM 3/20/2002]

 

Get a JUN header.

 

Yeah, what he said. haha. Have it on the R, notched brace that is. Also it would be a good idea to shave the bolt heads slightly. Not a big deal IMO. You dont need to remove that much and make sure it still has the hex pattern to allow for removal of the bolt.

 

i remember people saying things about ground clearance. my oil pan was from when my car was way too low and we went up some ramp to get into a booth(the cars early years. but as you can see...the hytech doesn't sit that low. as stated before...either do the Si flat shield or have it notched. Up until now...i haven't used anything at all with zero problems with clearances etc

 

Damn that's sure is purty!!!

 

.....why do we need to use the brace?

Someone mentioned that a gsr brace should clear too?

 

its not really a brace. its a flywheel cover.

 

The Hytech header in that pic tucks away nicely, but it's also not legal for Honda Challenge. I would have been pretty miffed if it arrived at my doorstep without prior knowledge of that.

Warren

 

not sure what your getting at

if your talking about the header showing up and not clearing the stock itr flywheel cover....who cares? I believe john talks to his customers about this just as i'm sure you had a convo with dave about it. the si tin shield covers the flywheel as well. as a matter of fact...the gsr was different as well. No way would you be dq'd for having the si shield instead of the itr. if you were....your in the wrong sport and the sanctioning body/rules commity wouldn't be who i'd want to be around. Thats something worth drawing the line for. I can see if your cheating with an unfair advantage...but thats stupid

btw....why do people worry about this cover/brace? you think the tranny is gonna seperate from the block or something? guess ya never pulled one out. given the bolts, pins...when bolted its not going anywhere

 

The brace came on the car from the factory.... so that is why you need to use it. Leave it alone and be happy.

The GSR brace is different than the ITR brace. It is a 2 piece vs. the one (stronger) piece ITR unit.

Will
-who likes braces.... and will leave then as is.

[FYI... it is not a "cover"... but infact a brace ]


[Modified by Willard, 11:26 AM 3/21/2002]

 

whats it bracing thats important?

 

The lower side of the tranny?
who knows... the Honda "engine designer" put one there.... and made it stronger for the ITR.... so it must do something.

Will
-who is not a engine engineer

 

will is on the show circuit. he has his chromed for suppa stunna show points. thats why he wont remove it


ive also heard this referred to as an "inspection plate" as well. yet, this tidbit really doesnt aid in the discussion either


[Modified by Johnny Tran, 11:35 AM 3/21/2002]