Well I just now set a goal for my self. I have a 01 Prelude SH and I want to be able to hit ~180 at the wheels. What kind of route should I take to do this? I want my motor to be NA and for the most part bolt ons. So far I have short ram intake, DC header, high flow cat and Tsudo cat back (apexi-knock off). Thanks.


Modified by Iamcuddles at 10:55 AM 1/11/2006

 

Get rid of the DC ***** Header and get RMF or SMSP. You'll hit 180 with ease.

 

Yep thats right. People hit about close to 200 with a good header and a free flowing exhaust. No other work needed. Just save your money for one of these headers, which consist of RMF, DTR, SMSP. These all vary from 800ish-1200. Cheapest would be RMF because he offers a good header in mild steel. If interested PM him.

 

Well as far as not getting a 1000 dollar header what could I do? Im not really ever going to be able to save up that much. I know Im getting my taxes back soon, which I can get some more parts with that. Im thinking something along the lines of 400-500 bucks for a few more things to add on or just one more thing.

Actually where can I look at the RMF header, as far as prices go and such. Any site?

 

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Sell your DC header for $200 and the balance of your tax payment will pick you up an RMF header.. If you want a high HP all motor Prelude, this is the only way to go.. I believe you can get a non-coated RMF for $6-700 and it will be WELL worth it if you want 180whp.. Otherwise - you're just going to be wasting your money on other little crap that won't add up.

 

i think with a good tune you might be close to 180 as it is.

it's the header that's holding you back.

maybe try one of those new "2.5 inch" collector DC headers or a greddy or other mid-tier header and get a hondata and you'll prob be right there.

 

Where can I get more info on the RMF header? Thanks fellas.

 

importpowerhouse.com

...I'm running DC ***** Header right now too and trust me whenever the money comes around I'm going to RMF. Should have a long time ago but I ordered my CF Hood and I gotta get a clutch and flywheel put it. But after that I can garuntee I'll have one of those badass RMF headers on my car!

 

yeah you can definitely hit 190+ with the rmf....you could probably hit 180 with some mid level header like monkeyboy said...

tuning it will be the best help...

 

I have an SH as well and I was hoping to push 200 @ the wheels with a nice header. Here is my question: I assume w/o the tune the nice header will have little effect, but will the "tune" affect my ATTS?

 

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depends on what you're tuning with. Hondata will render your ATTS inoperable. A VAFC or Emanage will let you keep your ATTS, but won't be as fully featured as a hondata.

that's the tradeoff, atm.

 

I have seen people use the Greddy PIggy Back with great results.

 

if you want to add some hp. (10-15) get some bigger fuel injectors a nice intake system, headers and a 2.25 full exhaust. that should open the motor up nicely and allow for some extra hp

 

Would the RMF SMSP or rage header be a good header for a I/H/E setup? I thought you would need some internal work for those headers....

 

You guys are kidding me right? Suggesting he buy those headers are overkill for a goal of 180ish whp. If he eventually wants more, then I agree on the header but if he's the type that will be satisfied with 180whp then he does need it.

IamCuddles- I made 181whp with a AEM CAI, High flow cat, AEM pulleys, N1 exhaust, and a OBX header tuned an a VAFC. So that'll give you a rough idea of what you need. And the tune wasn't very good.

 

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I've seen 180 out of similar setups with a VAFC tune.

If you're content with 180 or so just get a piggyback, tune it, and call it a day.

 

So basically 180 isnt really much of a goal? How about those injectors? Any brands or what should I go for when I get some? I havent really read much about that, so any information on it would be awesome. Im sure once I hit 180 Ill want to go 190 then 200 but Im sure that will be max. I dont really want to go the pulley route because of the damaging internals thing.

 

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Stock injectors are comfortably okay until about 200whp, or so the story goes.

 

my friend got 170whp, with aem CAI, dc header, and some kinda catback exhaust system....i think you should be around there...and 180 is kinda low for a goal...

 

on 3 engines i have hit 175-177 hp with a stock ecu, test pipe/high flow cat, aem CAI, and apexi dunk exhaust. stock header on them all....

have you done a baseline dyno yet to see how far you really have to go to get 180?

 

I havent really done anything as far as dynos, I was just reading around and it looked like people were getting around 170 with their ludes and not much with a setup. I figured ah what the hell Ill try and get 180. But if I could get higher with bolts ons, bring it! I think my next buy is going to be a VAFC 2, I havent really read much on an other piggy backs. Also I dont know of any shops around here that would tune my car (Richmond, Va)

 

Grow some ***** and set a higher goal. 200 whp is most h series owners whp goal for a naturally aspirated motor. Your probably already making around high 170's whp. You will actaully feel like you achieved something when you hit that 200 mark.

 

though a VAFC 2 is appropriate for your goals, i think i'd rather go with an emanage if you want to keep ATTS. they've got a few more features than the VAFC, and aren't that much more expensive, if at all.

the right bolt ons + tuning will be 190 whp easy. that's a very realistic goal that won't put you under financially.

 

If you're willing to drive, there's a shop in Bristol, TN that does some amazing work (probably got the best dyno in the whole state too)

 

I jsut have some bolt ons and i hit 180 at the wheels. I just have CAI, DC headers, custome exhaust, skunk 2 cam gears and vafc 2. And I did that in Colorado. 5280 feet above sea level.