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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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Hello,

For some reason no matter how gently I try to close my hood it will not latch. Was wondering what is causing this? The car is at 145K. Thanks.
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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Sent you a PM.

Will it just not stay closed? Did something happen to it or did it just start doing it for no reason?

Have you tried spraying WD-40 in the latch to clean it out and then spray some grease into the latch to grease it back up?

My girls Jimmy did that like two months ago. Driving down the freeway and I see your hood loose. Pulled off the freeway and couldn't get it to stay closed. Got home, sprayed it wd-40 to clean it out and then sprayed some white lithium grease into it to re-grease it. Been fine since.
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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The hood release cable may not be fully releasing, or the hood latch may have loosened and then slipped out of adjustment,

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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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Hey

Where is hood release cable? Do you have a pic? What should I look for with the possible loosened latch?

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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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hood release cable usually runs adjacent with your front radiator support. It'll stop by the hood latch.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 05:17 AM
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Here's a picture of the Hood release cable / latch and the relationship of everything.

http://www.hondaautomotivepart...+HOOD

The hood latch is retained by several metric bolts. The holes for these bolts (on the latch itself) are slotted (or oversized) so that it can be loosened, moved (adjusted) and retightened as required

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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 05:50 AM
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try pushing in the hood realease lever under the dash sometimes they stick a bit causing hood not to close .. if it does not work , follow instructions given to you from the other guys
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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Yeah I used to be able to do that little trick but now it will not work at all.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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Dude I am so sorry, but which number itemis the hood release cable? Thanks.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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hood release cable is #7
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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So lets just say that these bolts need an adjustment, how do I know where they should be? They are pretty tight and I see no space around them to move them so Im guessing they are in the middle of the slots.

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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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Well with the help of Touringaccord, we spent almost half a day trying to figure out what was wrong. We thought the cable might be bent somewhere but it looks like somehow the latch assymbly might be faulty because we can take a screw driver and push a component forward manually and it resets the inside lever of the car and then the hood closes and stays shut. We took off every area where you could see the cable except a tiny amount between the inside of the car and the start of entering the back of the hood near the rear view mirror.

We think we need to replace the cable?

What do you all think?

Thanks
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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Yes, I think your cable was getting stuck. Probably why you used to have to push the handle back in before. If you could, try and see if the latch will operate without using the cable. Don't know if that's possible though.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:04 AM
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Basically what is happening is the cable is stuck at the open position not allowing the hood latch to reset. Since it isn't reseting, the hood latch isn't catching the hood and holding it when you close it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLKFLSH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, I think your cable was getting stuck.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, it's getting stuck somewhere. We took the hood latch assembly off and I manually pulled the cable back through manually. It had some resistance but with a little force, not much but probably more than what should be needed, it did come back out. It seems like it's getting stuck to the point that the spring in the latch assmebly isn't able to pull it threw anymore. What would cause this other than a kink in the cable, which we couldn't find? The only part of the cable that was hard to see was the part where it goes behind the underhood fuse block

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLKFLSH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you could, try and see if the latch will operate without using the cable. Don't know if that's possible though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, the latch appears to opperate fine. When the latch assmelby was off the car, he held the unit while I forced a screw driver into the latch just like the hatch catch would. The latch clamped down on the screw driver nice and tight. Then I just pushed the part that the cable mounts into to release the screw driver.

So then we put the latch back on the car. This time we pushed the lever that holds the cable back into position and closed the hood. It held nice and tight. Pulled the release lever in the car and it released but the release lever did the same thing, it didn't return to it's normal position because the cable was stuck again. We still couldn't figure out why so we just reassembled everything but we were able to get the hood to close and latch.

So as a temporary solution, now if he open his hood, he just has to manually push the lever thats holds the cable in the latch assmebly back into the closed position so the hood will catch and hold closed.

Any suggestions? Do you think it could just be a bad cable? Never heard of a cable going bad though. Don't know what else would cause the cable to get stuck like that other than a kink. If it is just a bad cable, the cable is only like $10 from Honda.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Thanks Touring for a more detailed reply!
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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try lubing it with graphite
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newhondaowner29 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well with the help of Touringaccord, we spent almost half a day trying to figure out what was wrong. We thought the cable might be bent somewhere but it looks like somehow the latch assymbly might be faulty because we can take a screw driver and push a component forward manually and it resets the inside lever of the car and then the hood closes and stays shut. We took off every area where you could see the cable except a tiny amount between the inside of the car and the start of entering the back of the hood near the rear view mirror.

We think we need to replace the cable?

What do you all think?

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EXACTLY what i have to do about every other time i pop the hood (gets really ******* annoying)...oh well
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Don't know how hard it would be to replace the cable. But it seems like it would be hard to lubricate, depending on where it is binding up. If it is binding close to the end, graphite might work.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 03:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newhondaowner29 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks Touring for a more detailed reply!</TD></TR></TABLE>

np
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YeuEmMaiMai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">try lubing it with graphite</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok. I can only really see doing it at two places... 1) being at the release lever in the car and 2) being at the hood latch assembly behind the grill. Is this where you're refering to try?

We can try that, but I don't know if it's binding at the point where it goes into the tubing or somewhere within the tubing.

So if it is binding somewhere within the tubing, meaning hard place to get to lubricate it, would it just be best to replace the cable? Or is there something else that could be tried/done.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLKFLSH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't know how hard it would be to replace the cable.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The hardest part I'm thinking is going to be routing the cable back into the car and behind the fuse block to the release lever and maybe under the radiator suuport, it's kinda tight trying to get under there in some places. The rest shouldn't be too bad, just a little time consuming getting the parts removed to access the cable.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:10 AM
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This is how I did it on a 1994 olds. Unlatched cable from both ends, removed end cap from the end that attaches to the hood release lever. pulled it out, poured graphite into the cable sheath, and pushed the cable back in while rubbing graphite all over it and turning it counter clockwise (opposite of cable winding) until the cable came out the other end. Then I just spun it around a few times to make sure it was free, and put a new end cap on it and reattached everything.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:03 AM
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ok, I sorta get what you mean but I'm having trouble visualizing it.

When you say to remove the end cap, are you refering to the part that holds the cable itself in the lever? That little ball or whatever it is? I haven't looked at ever removing one, is there anything special I need to do?

Do I pull the cable all the way out of the sheath, and then coat the cable real good as I'm putting the cable back in the sheath?

And you said to use a new end cap. Are the end caps some sort of clamp on one-time use sorta things? Where do you purchase those? Any special tips to remember when installing a new end cap?

Sorry for all the questions, just want to make sure I understand you completely.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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the end cap is the peice of metal or plastic on the end of the cable that keeps it from freying/comming apart. Yes, pull the cable all the way out so you can inspect it for kinks or if it is broke. If the cable is broke or has kinks, just replace the cable and sheathing. If the cable is in good shape you can lube it up and slide it back in. It is much easier to do this than trying to replace the sheathing.

You can also buy a new lenght of cable of the same diameter and lube it up and slide it in the old sheathing

maybe this will help

end cap


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cable

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end cap on cable

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Think of it as a hat that you put on the end of the cable Sometimes they are metal, tape, plastic or a ring


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