what tire width/profile on a CRX with 15x6.5 wheels?
i have 15 inch rota slipstreams in 6.5 inch width. i am wondering what the maximum tire width is on a CRX with these wheels.
i know that near-stock is 195/50/15 but right now i have 205/50/15 and they work fine.
i see that a 225/50/15 will fit on the rim (it is pushing it, but it should work) but i wonder if it will rub somehow or otherwise have a negative effect on the car's handling, etc.
this is for a street car with weekend warrior dreams.
any intelligent input or experience is appreciated.
edit: yes, i realize that when wheel/tire combinations are changed, it can affect the speedometer reading, but i am willing to deal with that if i can see improved traction and cornering, etc.
i know that near-stock is 195/50/15 but right now i have 205/50/15 and they work fine.
i see that a 225/50/15 will fit on the rim (it is pushing it, but it should work) but i wonder if it will rub somehow or otherwise have a negative effect on the car's handling, etc.
this is for a street car with weekend warrior dreams.
any intelligent input or experience is appreciated.
edit: yes, i realize that when wheel/tire combinations are changed, it can affect the speedometer reading, but i am willing to deal with that if i can see improved traction and cornering, etc.
ok, EF8opey. i would appreciate if you can subscribe to this thread or hit me with a PM once the your EF is rolling on the 225's
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Before I can help you out - what tire is being used? R-compound or street tire? I need to know more about the car; "a street car with weekend warrior dreams" isn't very descriptive.
Any 225 won't necessarily be better than any 205. Most of the National-level STS ED9s are running 205/50-15s for good reasons. Also, a 225/45-15 is a lot better than a 225/50-15 for gearing purposes.
Any 225 won't necessarily be better than any 205. Most of the National-level STS ED9s are running 205/50-15s for good reasons. Also, a 225/45-15 is a lot better than a 225/50-15 for gearing purposes.
i had some kumho's v700 225/45/15 on my stock ls mesh 15x6 wheels barely fit but had no rubbing issues barely cleared. what is the offset of the wheel, that is what will be the biggest factor
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, a 225/45-15 is a lot better than a 225/50-15 for gearing purposes.</TD></TR></TABLE> I just flipped through Edge Racing and Discount Tire, both had no tires in 225-45. Do you have a source to get these?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KFBhonda »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i see that a 225/50/15 will fit on the rim (it is pushing it, but it should work) but i wonder if it will rub somehow or otherwise have a negative effect on the car's handling, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It'll pinch the tire a little bit, but no big deal.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stockbee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">205/50/15's buddy, that'll do you good, and still retain really good sensitivity.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jaydeum4lyfe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anybody got 205/45/15's ?? i seen a civic hatch with 195/45/15's and it looked awesom</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorry to ruin your fun, but 205/45/15s aren't made. They just dont come in that size.
It'll pinch the tire a little bit, but no big deal.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stockbee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">205/50/15's buddy, that'll do you good, and still retain really good sensitivity.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jaydeum4lyfe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anybody got 205/45/15's ?? i seen a civic hatch with 195/45/15's and it looked awesom</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorry to ruin your fun, but 205/45/15s aren't made. They just dont come in that size.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mach69 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Sorry to ruin your fun, but 205/45/15s aren't made. They just dont come in that size.</TD></TR></TABLE>
As a matter of fact, I can take a picture of a tire i have at home that is in that size. Its a Dunlop SP Sport 9000. A set of 2 came off a car I bought from a dude in Germany. Ive been trying to find another set and cant, but that size does exist.
Sorry to ruin your fun, but 205/45/15s aren't made. They just dont come in that size.</TD></TR></TABLE>
As a matter of fact, I can take a picture of a tire i have at home that is in that size. Its a Dunlop SP Sport 9000. A set of 2 came off a car I bought from a dude in Germany. Ive been trying to find another set and cant, but that size does exist.
Here is a thread to support my claim also:
http://www.motor-talk.de/t285758/f81/s/thread.html
Its in German, but you can still see the tire size he is discussing.
http://www.motor-talk.de/t285758/f81/s/thread.html
Its in German, but you can still see the tire size he is discussing.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mach69 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fine, it exists, but really rare. That german guy might have made a typo maybe?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Keebler »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As a matter of fact, I can take a picture of a tire i have at home that is in that size. Its a Dunlop SP Sport 9000. A set of 2 came off a car I bought from a dude in Germany. Ive been trying to find another set and cant, but that size does exist.
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Or I guess I could be imagining the set of tires in my garage have the same size on them... And no they arent rare, in Europe.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Keebler »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As a matter of fact, I can take a picture of a tire i have at home that is in that size. Its a Dunlop SP Sport 9000. A set of 2 came off a car I bought from a dude in Germany. Ive been trying to find another set and cant, but that size does exist.
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Or I guess I could be imagining the set of tires in my garage have the same size on them... And no they arent rare, in Europe.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I just flipped through Edge Racing and Discount Tire, both had no tires in 225-45. Do you have a source to get these?</TD></TR></TABLE>
AFAIK, 225/45-15 is only sold in R-compound models; I have never seen a street tire in that size. Hoosier A3S05/R3S04, Avon Tech-R/Tech-RA, Kumho Ecsta V700, and Toyo RA-1 are all available in that size.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Keebler »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And no they arent rare, in Europe.</TD></TR></TABLE>
205/45-15 isn't sold at all in North America.
AFAIK, 225/45-15 is only sold in R-compound models; I have never seen a street tire in that size. Hoosier A3S05/R3S04, Avon Tech-R/Tech-RA, Kumho Ecsta V700, and Toyo RA-1 are all available in that size.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Keebler »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And no they arent rare, in Europe.</TD></TR></TABLE>
205/45-15 isn't sold at all in North America.
My .02
I would think the sensitivity you would loose from the extra sidewall would not be worth the extra grip you might get from a wider patch. Spending a little more $ on a good set of 195 or 205/50/15's would out perform the 225's anyway. The EF just doesn't need that much rubber.
I would think the sensitivity you would loose from the extra sidewall would not be worth the extra grip you might get from a wider patch. Spending a little more $ on a good set of 195 or 205/50/15's would out perform the 225's anyway. The EF just doesn't need that much rubber.
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205/45-15 isn't sold at all in North America.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Aye, thats why i said that, thanks
205/45-15 isn't sold at all in North America.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Aye, thats why i said that, thanks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JMZ400 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My .02
I would think the sensitivity you would loose from the extra sidewall would not be worth the extra grip you might get from a wider patch. Spending a little more $ on a good set of 195 or 205/50/15's would out perform the 225's anyway. The EF just doesn't need that much rubber.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're on the right track. It really depends on what you're looking to do and what your tire limitations are.
For example, a CSP autocross EF needs a 225/45-13 soft R-compound tire on an 8" or 9" wide wheel. Choosing anything else means losing.
An STS autocross EF needs a 205/50-15 max-performance summer street tire, like Falken's RT-615, Kumho's Ecsta MX, BFG's gForce T/A KD, or Hankook's RS2-Z212.
An H1, H4, or H5 road race EF will need the 225/45-15 and/or 205/50-15 in a harder R-compound.
For a drag EF (which I must admit, I don't know much about), if you aren't running slicks, you ought to be running BFG gForce drag radials. Size will depend on power levels (i.e., a high power turbo car with a lot of traction issues may want something with a larger overall diameter to lengthen the gearing).
For a regular street EF, 195/50-15 and 205/50-15 are perfect. The tire selection in those sizes is enormous, and prices are cheap.
For snow tires without studs, 185/60-14 or 175/70-13 Michelin X-Ice, Dunlop Graspic DS-2, or Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50 work well. Studdable tires are even better.
I would think the sensitivity you would loose from the extra sidewall would not be worth the extra grip you might get from a wider patch. Spending a little more $ on a good set of 195 or 205/50/15's would out perform the 225's anyway. The EF just doesn't need that much rubber.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're on the right track. It really depends on what you're looking to do and what your tire limitations are.
For example, a CSP autocross EF needs a 225/45-13 soft R-compound tire on an 8" or 9" wide wheel. Choosing anything else means losing.
An STS autocross EF needs a 205/50-15 max-performance summer street tire, like Falken's RT-615, Kumho's Ecsta MX, BFG's gForce T/A KD, or Hankook's RS2-Z212.
An H1, H4, or H5 road race EF will need the 225/45-15 and/or 205/50-15 in a harder R-compound.
For a drag EF (which I must admit, I don't know much about), if you aren't running slicks, you ought to be running BFG gForce drag radials. Size will depend on power levels (i.e., a high power turbo car with a lot of traction issues may want something with a larger overall diameter to lengthen the gearing).
For a regular street EF, 195/50-15 and 205/50-15 are perfect. The tire selection in those sizes is enormous, and prices are cheap.
For snow tires without studs, 185/60-14 or 175/70-13 Michelin X-Ice, Dunlop Graspic DS-2, or Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50 work well. Studdable tires are even better.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're on the right track. It really depends on what you're looking to do and what your tire limitations are.
For example, a CSP autocross EF needs a 225/45-13 soft R-compound tire on an 8" or 9" wide wheel. Choosing anything else means losing.
An STS autocross EF needs a 205/50-15 max-performance summer street tire, like Falken's RT-615, Kumho's Ecsta MX, BFG's gForce T/A KD, or Hankook's RS2-Z212.
An H1, H4, or H5 road race EF will need the 225/45-15 and/or 205/50-15 in a harder R-compound.
For a drag EF (which I must admit, I don't know much about), if you aren't running slicks, you ought to be running BFG gForce drag radials. Size will depend on power levels (i.e., a high power turbo car with a lot of traction issues may want something with a larger overall diameter to lengthen the gearing).
For a regular street EF, 195/50-15 and 205/50-15 are perfect. The tire selection in those sizes is enormous, and prices are cheap.
For snow tires without studs, 185/60-14 or 175/70-13 Michelin X-Ice, Dunlop Graspic DS-2, or Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50 work well. Studdable tires are even better.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This should be in an faq somewhere
Good info
For example, a CSP autocross EF needs a 225/45-13 soft R-compound tire on an 8" or 9" wide wheel. Choosing anything else means losing.
An STS autocross EF needs a 205/50-15 max-performance summer street tire, like Falken's RT-615, Kumho's Ecsta MX, BFG's gForce T/A KD, or Hankook's RS2-Z212.
An H1, H4, or H5 road race EF will need the 225/45-15 and/or 205/50-15 in a harder R-compound.
For a drag EF (which I must admit, I don't know much about), if you aren't running slicks, you ought to be running BFG gForce drag radials. Size will depend on power levels (i.e., a high power turbo car with a lot of traction issues may want something with a larger overall diameter to lengthen the gearing).
For a regular street EF, 195/50-15 and 205/50-15 are perfect. The tire selection in those sizes is enormous, and prices are cheap.
For snow tires without studs, 185/60-14 or 175/70-13 Michelin X-Ice, Dunlop Graspic DS-2, or Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50 work well. Studdable tires are even better.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This should be in an faq somewhere
Good info
Excellent info in this thread. I thought it might have been better posted in the RoadRacing forum, but since this topic is EF-specific, I posted here. With the good discussion that has ensued, I am glad that I did.
Thanks to all, especially Targa250R for the posts.
Now I am thinking about tire brands and models to go with on my "street car with weekend warrior dreams." To elaborate on that, the car is (as most EF's probably are) a Work-In-Progress. It has never seen a track, but I want to Auto-X it and drag it, at the minimum. I know that slicks or the BFG's/Azenis are the way to go for drag, so I really want to know more about Auto-Cross and Road Racing tire/wheel combos.
I would like to throw down on the Toyo RA-1's but that would be stupid/wasteful on the street. I am partial to Toyo's because of excellent performance from a set in the past, but I do realize that other companies make some very nice tires, too. So, the 205/50/15 Toyo Proxes T1R look like the ones I will go with, but Falkens, BFG's, Kumhos and even Hankooks can probably compete with the Toyos. Of course, price and availability will have a hand in what tires I eventually purchase.
What do you think?
Thanks to all, especially Targa250R for the posts.
Now I am thinking about tire brands and models to go with on my "street car with weekend warrior dreams." To elaborate on that, the car is (as most EF's probably are) a Work-In-Progress. It has never seen a track, but I want to Auto-X it and drag it, at the minimum. I know that slicks or the BFG's/Azenis are the way to go for drag, so I really want to know more about Auto-Cross and Road Racing tire/wheel combos.
I would like to throw down on the Toyo RA-1's but that would be stupid/wasteful on the street. I am partial to Toyo's because of excellent performance from a set in the past, but I do realize that other companies make some very nice tires, too. So, the 205/50/15 Toyo Proxes T1R look like the ones I will go with, but Falkens, BFG's, Kumhos and even Hankooks can probably compete with the Toyos. Of course, price and availability will have a hand in what tires I eventually purchase.
What do you think?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KFBhonda »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What do you think?</TD></TR></TABLE>
What class do you intend to compete in for autocross, and how many dedicated sets of tires and wheels are you willing to buy?
Ideally, you'd want a different set of tires for street, drag strip, autocross course, and road course. Obviously most people don't have the means to have 4 or 5 different sets of tires for a single car.
What class do you intend to compete in for autocross, and how many dedicated sets of tires and wheels are you willing to buy?
Ideally, you'd want a different set of tires for street, drag strip, autocross course, and road course. Obviously most people don't have the means to have 4 or 5 different sets of tires for a single car.




