I've read on other forums that some people have experienced transmission failure on their Accords. I have a '99 Ex 4cyl, should I be worried about possible tranny failure?

 

Yes, I am in this situation as I have told many people, I think it would be a wise decision to buy a JDM h22a, I found a website that sells the engine, tranny, and all it's accessories for $1990. I think i'd rather spend a couple thousand on something that will last rather than keep swapping out transmissions!

 

the accord trannies (expecially the V6 ones) are crap no matter where they were built. If you have a V6 why do a swap to a 4 cyl that is not that much more powerful and makes a lot more noise. Find a place that will rebuild the trans right and stay away from the 5K honda dealer trans rebuild.

 

Many people have told me they still get quoted about 3-4k

 

unless you have tranny problems now don't worry about it. some people have problems, some never have problems. it's not as much of an "epidemic" as some people make it sound like. remember there are thousands upon thousands of accords on the road, and most of them have no problems at all.

 

notoriousB

Thanks, sounds pretty much like the problems people have with the trannys on Ford Escapes, one of which I also own.

Who's that in your avatar?

 

It's not me I'll tell you that!!

It's a picture from the Isle of Mann TT races, racer unknown.

 

you are so full of crap on this one........there is a problem and honda knows about it and that is why they extended the warranty on it. The 5th gen tranny failure rate is less than HALF that of the 6th gen cars. The 7th gen cars also have tranny problems related to the seconday shaft lubracation.


You need to get the facts

6th gen cars have problems with the differental and also 2nd gear goes out. It is a common problem with these cars. Just ask anyone where who works at a honda dealership

7th gen cars

Secondary shaft problems and it is too early to get an accurate picture for other failures

Same for oddesy and acura v6 trannies it is a design flaw.

 

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ok please explain how I'm "so full of crap". are you trying to say that every ******* automatic accord on this planet is going to have a transmission problem?

my parents have an auto 6th gen. no tranny problems.

both of my friend's parents have an auto 6th gen. no problems.

the original poster doesn't have a problem with his car right now. are you saying that he's going to have IMMINENT transmission failure and he should panic and get rid of his accord?

don't be a ********. I know the autos have a history of transmission problems, but saying that 9/10 of them are going to have problems is COMPLETE bullshit. hell, I bet it's not even 1/10 thas has problems. if there were a 10% failure rate on honda's automatic transmissions there would be a massive product recall and probably investigations by the AG.

 

An automatic tranny is a problem with any Honda. Period.

I have a 6th Gen auto.

The only problems that I'm having with it is that it shifts a little hard until it gets warmed up, and it stutters in traffic. It seems like it wants to upshift, but you won't let it.

Other than that, everything is fine. No CELs. Every gear works.

Like B said, if you aren't having any problems now, and don't neutral bomb it, or drive like a jackass, it should last for a good while.

If you have any doubts, grab a tranny cooler. They aren't that expensive, and it's just one more thing to help you sleep at night.



Worst case scenario. If you ever do experience problems that show signs of a dying tranny, Honda has somewhat of a goodwill option. I think they did this because they offered warranty extensions to the '00+ Accords only. You can call Honda, tell them exactly what is wrong with the tranny, and they should send you a brand new one free of charge. The only thing you will have to pay for is the labor, which varies from shop to shop. A lot better then just getting it rebuilt, huh?

 

Actually notoriousB is correct, while they are crappy transmissions they are not as bad as some people seem to think. I worked where honda has them rebuilt. I was one of 4 guys that got the failed trannys dealers sent in, tore them down and found out what went wrong. The failure rate averaged anywhere from .6% to 1.2%. Honda offered the extended warranty to try to keep customers happy and coming back for future car purchases. I quit because I can rebuild them better but not as long as I worked there.

 

The only thing I notice is how it stutters sometimes, and when im slowing down, like for red light for example, it kinda downshifts from 2nd to 1st (rpm jumps a little.. kinda like a 5spd) and then its all normal. Nothing serious or bothersome.

But, most of the time, when these gen's trannies fail, people just go ahead and put in the 5spd which is more reliable and cheaper to get.

 

I would do the manual swap myself if I owned a Honda. The numbers I quoted is what we told the return rate was, seemed kinda off to us but we were always way too busy to even think of figuring it ourselves. A lot of people I worked with drove hondas and the ones that needed a tranny rebuilt had me and one of the guys I worked with do it for them in our own shop. Not many of the shops around here will touch them, some of the parts can be hard to find, I know where to get them but they can be very expensive depending on the part you need. The biggest thing is to use only high quality parts and make sure you do all of the checks and get everything within spec, using the minimum spec is better in the long run.

 

I don't think the failure rate is all that bad. And some of the failures are probably due to abuse and neglect. I had a 4th gen automatic for 12 years, and never had one problem with it. Now I have a 7th gen and because of the recall I have decided to change the transmission fluid every 15,000 miles, and check the condition of it often. That way if it ever does go bad Honda cannot say I didn't try. I use only Honda ATF-Z1 fluid. So if I ever do have problems the techs at the dealership will find nothing but clean (Honda) fluid in my transmission. Better safe than sorry. It only cost me $12 for 3 quarts of fluid. Pretty cheap insurance, I'd say.

 

I didn't say it was all that bad, but there is that perception. I've seen thousands of them and that was just at 1 facility, there are 2 and soon to be 3. But you have to keep in mind there are millions of them on the road. It seems like every manufacturer out there is having tranny trouble with one model or another. Toyota claims the most reliable tranny crown. I am a Ford Truck guy myself and they have trouble too. The best thing you can do is preventative maintenance and arm yourself with knowledge so you know whats going on if you do have a problem.

 

did you not read the post that I put up there?


6th gen cars have a 2nd gear lube problem that honda did not fix until the 2002 model year.

A tranny should not go out on a car with less than 90K on it. The guy I bought the car from keep it serviced well and followed Honda's maint schedule. There is not a single scratch on this car and other than the trans it is excellent car.

I actually did some research on this one and I talked to my friend who has the exact same car (1999 Honda accord EX coupe with a V6 versus a LXV6 for me) and she is on her THIRD trans and she is at less milage than I am (all replaced under warranty) I talked to the Kennedy trans person and he stated that Hondas are usually very reliable cars but the V6 trannies have problems. He told me that they have to install a 2nd gear kit to prevent this problem from comming back. It sucks to just loose 2nd. It happened like this:


Started car up, let it warm up for a few mins drive away and come to a stop sign. start to drive away and car goes into 2nd but does not catch. Now there is slipping in all gears so I drive it to the trans shop and they said it is toast. Shifted fine up to that point.

Honda obviously knows there is a problem otherwise there would be no warranty extensionfor 7 years or 100K.

BTW I I have not had the need to even get close to 4K and usually give enough gas to let the trans shift around 3K....I would not consider that abuse........

I drive my 1994 a lot harder usually giving it enough gas to shift at redline when getting on the fwy and here we are at 143K and the trans is still good.

Lucky that I got this car for 6K because it would suck to pay 9K for this car (KBB) and then 2-5K for a trans.


Modified by YeuEmMaiMai at 12:19 PM 1/7/2006

 

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6th gen cars have a 2nd gear lube problem that honda did not fix until the 2002 model year.......

I actually did some research on this one and I talked to my friend who has the exact same car (1999 Honda accord EX coupe with a V6 versus a LXV6 for me) and she is on her THIRD trans and she is at less milage than I am (all replaced under warranty) I talked to the Kennedy trans person and he stated that Hondas are usually very reliable cars but the V6 trannies have problems.

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Forgive my ignorance but is a '99 a 5th or 6th generation Accord. It also appears that
the problems are more to do with 6cyl models. I asked about a 4cyl are these less prone to the percieved problem than the 6 cyl?

 

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6th Gen.

5th Gen = '94-'97
6th Gen = '98-'02

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That is true.

I've heard of numerous people having tranny failure in their AV6s.