What's the lowest drop Koni Yellow shocks can handle ?

Cuz I am thining of getting Sprint extreme springs with Ground control Top Hats and Koni Yellow shocks.

Sprint x1000 Civic/CRX 88-91 3.25"f/3.00"r $137.99

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koni Yellow shocks

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Ground control Top Hats


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Don't those Sprint® springs have progressive rates?..If so I think even a stock shock could handle those..

 

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buddy, 3.25" drop ? I dont think so...LoL

 

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buddy, 3.25" drop ? I dont think so...LoL</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah but they have progressive rates..

 

With OTS Koni Sports for '88-91 Civic/CRX and the Ground Control extended-travel upper mounts, your limit becomes the point at which the upper control arms hit the body.

 

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what do you mean ?

 

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what do you mean ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
They'll take a drop fine

 

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Ok, so the koni's arent like the KYB AGX's ? cuz the AGX's wont handle anything lower than 1.5" cuz they'll blow prematurely.(warranty will void it)

 

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Ok, so the koni's arent like the KYB AGX's ? cuz the AGX's wont handle anything lower than 1.5" cuz they'll blow prematurely.(warranty will void it)</TD></TR></TABLE>
No Koni will safely hold a drop

 

With the top hats it should be fine. CRX Lee is the goto guy for questions about koni's (he works for them).

 

Warranty's void after 2". After that you're on your own.

I've bottomed mine out plenty of times. They'll take a crapload of punishment, but there is a limit.

 

That is way too much of a drop and will only hurt performance and wear out other parts faster. Go for around 2" but you will need some more travel in the fronts still.

 

My old koni'es blew gaskets all the time. With a 30mm drop. I hate koni'es.

 

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Targa250R? -- From SHO? --&gt; Recaro_civic_R right here from the old days.


What is the advantage to using the top hat? -- I knew knew you could do that.

 

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Targa250R? -- From SHO? --&gt; Recaro_civic_R right here from the old days.


What is the advantage to using the top hat? -- I knew knew you could do that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Relocates shock upward 24mm to allow extra suspension travel.

http://www.ground-control-stor.../CA=5

Using on TEINS

 

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Yup.

 

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is the shock body narrow enough to fit inside the top hat? doesnt look like it. if it doesnt, its not doing anything other than limiting droop. because if the shock body cant fit inside the top hat, then its just going to crash into the top hat.

 

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Ok, so the koni's arent like the KYB AGX's ? cuz the AGX's wont handle anything lower than 1.5" cuz they'll blow prematurely.(warranty will void it)</TD></TR></TABLE>

What are you talking about I am running a 3" drop on AGX's and have yet to have a problem after 1 1/2 years running them about 60,000km put on them like this. Still ride like the day I bought them. Also warrenty will not be voided since I retail them and have never had a problem with warrenty claims.

 

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What are you talking about I am running a 3" drop on AGX's and have yet to have a problem after 1 1/2 years running them about 60,000km put on them like this. Still ride like the day I bought them. Also warrenty will not be voided since I retail them and have never had a problem with warrenty claims.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It says straight ont he KYB AGX warranty papers that they will void it after a 1.5" drop. It says the same thing for the Koni Sport Yellows (SP3 and non SP3 models) as well.

When I used to have my CRX, I bottomed them out with my GC coilovers all the time. They do take alot of punishment but there is a limit as stated above.

What is nice about the KONI shocks is that they can be rebuilt here in the US with any adjustment you would like. The GC's also have the option of using any rate of Eibach spring needed.

However, even with a full 3" drop like you wanted Rob. The problem is that the Upper Control Arm will hit the chassis due to the physical location of it.

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You need to learn how to rock Koni setups properly. Nub.

-Jon

 

rbjeepthing, maybe you dont even know what a blown shock feels like ? LOL
AGX's are easily "blowable" after 2" drop. lol

 

so whats sum good shocks to rock with theses spring springs???




Modified by evil_ryu at 2:59 PM 1/4/2006

 

I'm running the Sprint Extreme springs on my EF. I have stock struts that haven't blown yet, amazingly. Anyways, my point is that if I hit a big enough bump, my upper control arms hit before my struts bottom out. If that is your case, then that is as low as you will go. Unless you decide to cut holes for your arms to come through....

 

I'm running agx's on the front of my car with over 2" drop for a year now and a friend of mine is running agx's with over 2" of drop for about 3years. Both of us road race and solo2 events; no problems. LOL

Koni's are built better and will handle a stiffer spring rate. I don't think either brand is shortened though.