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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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Hello i have a 1997 se accord auto.

I check my spark plug caps here and there, and when i finally checked them after about a month with out checking them, there is a little big of oil on the spark plug caps when u pull them out , and some inside where the spark plugs are.. and two that are dry..

If your facing the firewall, the two on the right has oil on the caps, and the two on the left are dry.. Which one should be and which ones shouldnt be?

Also if the oil or the dry ones are the problems, how is this fixed? I was thinking about taking it to a honda dealer or something and have the seals replaced if thats the problem? or something to make it not have oil in the plugs (if thast a problem) it ry to take care of my honda as best as possible

thanks for the help

ps. i do need an oil change.. it says i need one at about 153xxx miles and im at that mark about so could that be a problem?

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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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most likely the vavle cover orings are leaking, those are a pretty cheap fix. just go pick yourself up a valve cover gasket, and 4 spark plug oring and replace them. 75% of the time this is your problem.

To do so, all you need is to unscrew teh valve cover bolts on top, remove valve cover, and replace the seals. i would suggest a squirt of grey liquid gasket on the corners of the valve cover gasket. when tightening the valve cover remember to only tighten those bolts hand tight. when they stop spinning they are tight. these bolts snap off easily if you over do it,

if that doesnt fix it, on the f22b2s, there are also orings under the cam caps, which require removing the cams and what not. this is more tedious and you may want to let a emchanic handle that.
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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oh if you totally can't visualize what i said, you might want to pick up a cheap haynes manual for your accord, they are only like 15 bucks or so, but have pretty decent pics of everything, should good enough to help you out with your project.
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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ok sweet thanks, i want to do it myself for the experince, but just incase if i cant get around to it.. do mechanics chrage an arm and leg for that type of work for the rings and stuff?
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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look at this...ill be doing this tomorrow cause i have same problem

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/sh...pp=15
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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Here is a link. The valve cover gaskets will probably not solve the problem. The o-rings under the rockerarms are probably leaking. You can try the valve cover gaskets first (this is an easy job, and you might get lucky) If that doesn't stop the oil from getting in the tube, read the link. The o-ring job is a lot more complicated.

PS: valve cover acorn nuts tighten to 7ftlbs only. Like the other guy said, they break easy.


http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/sh...+tube
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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Hey guys don't go by that other link. There is no need to remove the timing belt. I didn't have to, and if the cam turns on you, another complication. I had no problem holding the other end of the cam down.

PS: I hope you guys have a good repair manual. It's very important not to miss a step when setting the valves.
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLKFLSH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey guys don't go by that other link. There is no need to remove the timing belt. I didn't have to, and if the cam turns on you, another complication. I had no problem holding the other end of the cam down.

PS: I hope you guys have a good repair manual. It's very important not to miss a step when setting the valves.</TD></TR></TABLE>

same link you posted, just farther in it with pictures.

removing the timing belt just helps keep the cam from popping up...but not necessary to remove it (according to the posts in that thread)
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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I don't think my link sayes anything about removing the timing belt. I will read again.


Ok, I read my link again. It sayes to get someone to hold the other end of the camshaft down for you. You may want to get someone to assist you. I did it by myself, no problem. Believe me, it's not hard to hold it down, and even if the end comes up a little, as long as it doesn't move a tooth on the timing belt, it's all good.
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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I really do need a tune up , i dont know when the last one was done, sense i have not had this car long adn i bought it, and i dont have the number to the person that had the car..

i was wondering if i did a tune up would they replace everything so that it doesnt leak? or is that a whole diffrent kidn of job for someone to do?
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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No, that would not be included in a tuneup. I would guess about $300 to do the job. (more or less) Just a guess though. They charge about $100 to set the valves, and it's not much more work than that.
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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Ok this might sound kinda "noob"ish or whatever, but im thinking of just doing it all myself and im sure i gotta order some parts from a hondea dealership..

So i was wondering whta parts should i ask for? like i know there is a

valve cover gasket, and 4 spark plug oring's.. is that what i ask for? or is there some kidn of secret word lol

also another part i saw in the posts is

"The o-rings under the rockerarms are probably leaking" is there some kind of special term for that part to? or is it just orings under the rocker arms?

again i also wanted to know a mechanics usual price to fix all this for me.. b.c i dont have much time to work on my car like i use to and stuff like that.. I wanted to change my spark plugs and get a tune up, and again i was wondering if they can fix all this while doing a tune up and it still cost pretty cheap.. and not an arm and a leg..

i also know it will cost cheaper to just do it myself, but again, it gets dark early her in VA and i work from mourning to dark and i don thave time usually. so i was just wondering how much it would cost.. thanks
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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i would just get the kit from advance. thats what i did.

comes with valve cover gasket, tube gaskets, lower tube o rings, and the grommets for the acorn nuts on the top of the valve cover
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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I would call it the valve cover sparkplug tube gasket set. Just make sure it includes the valve cover seals and orings. Two different things. The ones that go on the valve cover are gaskets just like the one on the valve cover itself, and the orings are for further down the tube. If you look down the tube (you may need a flashlight) you can see two seams, under vave cover, and under rockerarm assy.
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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You got it.
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Ya i got it all.

Was wondering, how long can i drive with my stuff leakinga little bit.. i know i should get it dont asap, but there are a few issuses like time and money, so i wouldnt mind knowing a time frame for all this..

also someone said u can get the package or whatever at advanced.. im sure pep boys or deathzone has it too right?
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda_Accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ya i got it all.

Was wondering, how long can i drive with my stuff leakinga little bit.. i know i should get it dont asap, but there are a few issuses like time and money, so i wouldnt mind knowing a time frame for all this..

also someone said u can get the package or whatever at advanced.. im sure pep boys or deathzone has it too right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

lets just say mine is leaking, checked oil today and its not even on the dipstick its so low. i wont even start it up again till i fix it

fix it asap
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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Ok i went ahead and went to pep boys and got the package that comes with the

valve cover gasket
4 o rings for the bottom of the spark plug
4 seals that u place where the wholes are so u can get to your spark plug.
and 4 gorments

i put everything on except the ORings, b.c as some of u said thast a hard job and it requires to remove the rockerarm or whatever i belive?

anyways i replaced what i could and im gonan see if oil still leaks, ill check tomorrow.
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