power steering to manual
Power steering to manual? My son has 1995 honda civic with a 1.5 L engine. We are doing a engine swap to a B20. He does not went power steering. What is the easiest way and the cheapest why?
Thanks
Pirk
Thanks
Pirk
its not easy and its not hard but its not cheap cause you have to replaced the whole power steering rack with a manual steering rack you cant just plug it off or it will destroy the rack
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pirk »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Power steering to manual? My son has 1995 honda civic with a 1.5 L engine. We are doing a engine swap to a B20. He does not went power steering. What is the easiest way and the cheapest why?
Thanks
Pirk</TD></TR></TABLE>
First, let me say hell yah for helping your son with the swap! That's really awesome. To do away with power steering properly you basically have two options:
1) Remove the power rack and install a manual one. The big downside to this option is that the manual racks need more turns of the wheel from lock to lock. This is great in a semi but sucks in a car that is supposed to be fun to drive.
2) Loop the lines. This can be done different ways or even just have them capped off, but the method that's the easiest on the rack and your arms is to loop it all with an overflow tank of sorts. Basically fluid is left in the rack to keep things moving smoothly, and the reservoir is used to allow fluid/air to move freely so the pressure doesn't make it difficult to turn the wheel. HT member Padawan has been selling these kits for a while and I've yet to hear of a dissatisfied customer. The only reason I haven't bought his kit yet is because he won't ship to Canada, as you can see near the end of his thread:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=563116
Thanks
Pirk</TD></TR></TABLE>
First, let me say hell yah for helping your son with the swap! That's really awesome. To do away with power steering properly you basically have two options:
1) Remove the power rack and install a manual one. The big downside to this option is that the manual racks need more turns of the wheel from lock to lock. This is great in a semi but sucks in a car that is supposed to be fun to drive.
2) Loop the lines. This can be done different ways or even just have them capped off, but the method that's the easiest on the rack and your arms is to loop it all with an overflow tank of sorts. Basically fluid is left in the rack to keep things moving smoothly, and the reservoir is used to allow fluid/air to move freely so the pressure doesn't make it difficult to turn the wheel. HT member Padawan has been selling these kits for a while and I've yet to hear of a dissatisfied customer. The only reason I haven't bought his kit yet is because he won't ship to Canada, as you can see near the end of his thread:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=563116
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcVTECeg2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">let say you didnt use that kit and just removed the hose what short term/long term effects will you get</TD></TR></TABLE>
You'd get lots of rocks in your rack!
If you did that AND plugged the holes, steering in parking lots will give you big arms. Right now I'm actually running with all ps stuff in place, but no belt (crank pulley had been previously swapped to an older one with a "V" style belt for the alt). I feel kinda dumb cuz it was an oversight on my part when I did my swap, but I'll be looping it soon.
As for if it wrecks the rack or not, I'm not entirely sure. Assuming there's fluid in the rack I'm almost 100% certain you wouldn't damage anything, as the sole purpose of the pump is to make steering easier. There are lots of people on here that spout of "Dat b33z bu$t!n ****, y0!" when they have no clue what they're actually talking about. They just heard it from another ignorant member (they're not hard to find
). The only opinions I've heard voiced on this by respected, experienced members has been that the rack is fine. I'm convinced enough that I'm not worried about wrecking my own rack by not having a belt.
You'd get lots of rocks in your rack!
If you did that AND plugged the holes, steering in parking lots will give you big arms. Right now I'm actually running with all ps stuff in place, but no belt (crank pulley had been previously swapped to an older one with a "V" style belt for the alt). I feel kinda dumb cuz it was an oversight on my part when I did my swap, but I'll be looping it soon.As for if it wrecks the rack or not, I'm not entirely sure. Assuming there's fluid in the rack I'm almost 100% certain you wouldn't damage anything, as the sole purpose of the pump is to make steering easier. There are lots of people on here that spout of "Dat b33z bu$t!n ****, y0!" when they have no clue what they're actually talking about. They just heard it from another ignorant member (they're not hard to find
). The only opinions I've heard voiced on this by respected, experienced members has been that the rack is fine. I'm convinced enough that I'm not worried about wrecking my own rack by not having a belt.
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