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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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Is it possible to put an electric clutch on a SC so that you can control when the pulley is engage I've heard of this being done on a Chevy but is it possible on a Honda??
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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im sorry but maybe I am new to this what is a electric Clutch???
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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basically it would allow you to control from in the car when the SC is on. It puts a clutch in the pulley thats attached to the SC, so when the clutch is on, the pulley on the SC is spinning. When the clutch would be off or disengaged the SC would not be spinning or giving boost
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 12:07 AM
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Question, what do you mean by SC?
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 12:13 AM
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supercharger
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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Yes you can have an electric clutch on a supercharger. As far as a kit, there isn't one.

Basically, you must buy a supercharger from somewhere. Then, find a pulley that has an electric clutch. Some how you would have to find out how much boost you would create with that pulley.

I've seen this set-up done, good luck.
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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Thank you!

I was like what the hell is this guy talking about lol couldent you take the pully or something off of say an A/C unit and use that? I remember messing around with something like this a few yrs ago but lost interest because of lack of modivation. Its basicly the same thing as riding lawn mowers use as well for the deck engagements. I'm sure its been done before. You might have better luck asking in the forced induction forum.

Good luck either way
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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why have a supercharger on a button. Bump for the AC pulley idea. Most use a electomegnectic clutch, i can't spell
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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most screw type superchargers are sealed and wont run that well without the screws turning. now a vortech, being a centrifugal, it can breathe, not that well, but it can without it turning. mad max did it but i do believe that it wasnt a positive displacement blower.
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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exactly what i was thinking, it wouldn't to anything but hurt your porfarmance. with it on in low rpms, your still atleast spinning it, with it off , yes it would stop paracitic (sp) drag, but you would drastically slow the air flow. Its like having a button that gives you a flat tire, why?
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EG93si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">exactly what i was thinking, it wouldn't to anything but hurt your porfarmance. with it on in low rpms, your still atleast spinning it, with it off , yes it would stop paracitic (sp) drag, but you would drastically slow the air flow. Its like having a button that gives you a flat tire, why?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I like that analogy
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vintech &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why have a supercharger on a button. Bump for the AC pulley idea. Most use a electomegnectic clutch, i can't spell</TD></TR></TABLE>

electromagnetic
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 02:16 AM
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some guy did this to his subaru. it was tt and sc
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97spooncivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">some guy did this to his subaru. it was tt and sc</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd like to see a shot of that engine bay
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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ill see if i can find it again, my friend showed it to me becasue he goes on the subaru forums alot
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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the toyota 4agze had an electric clutch on it.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97spooncivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">some guy did this to his subaru. it was tt and sc</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, that works actually. VW is doing that from the factory in the European Golf (Polo?), they're calling it the "TwinCharger" system. There's an electromagnetic clutch on the SC, exactly like you'd find on an A/C compressor.

There's also a diverter valve that sends intake air though the supercharger at low RPM's. At high RPM's, the diverter valve moves to divert air through the turbocharger instead of the SC, and provides high-RPM power. At this point, the SC clutch is disengaged and the SC is completely cut out of the loop.

The end result is great low-end torque balanced with great high-RPM power. Although very expensive to build, it also works wonders for fuel economy. I believe they get about 170hp and 200ish ft-lbs out of a 1.4-liter engine, all while acheiving an advertised 40+ mpg.

That being said, I don't believe that VW's TwinCharger system is going to be shipped to the American market...although I could be wrong.
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