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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 03:48 PM
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 03:51 PM
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ohh the horror
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 03:53 PM
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 03:54 PM
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Pistons don't look too bad, just a few contact marks. I'd get the head done with new valves and valve seals then check the compression and do a leak down test. None of the valves broke off right, so there were no metal chunks in with the pistons right?
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 03:55 PM
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damn bro!

what are your plans after this?...are you gonna re-build it again?
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 03:55 PM
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Wow did you figure out why this happened yet?
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 04:01 PM
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the hell..did u rev to 13000 or sumthing?!?!? the valves went really down!!!
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 04:04 PM
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Ouch!
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 04:06 PM
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any pics of what the head looks like?
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 04:11 PM
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Ouch...when you said you broke the cam you weren't kidding, that's a lot of pieces.
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 05:10 PM
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I shipped the head to JUN today, so they will examine it and let me know their findings. The head was not that bad....the exhaust valves were bent, so they did not sit in the valve seat properly, but they were not bent that badly.

I will rebuild again. I will use JUN cams if they pay for the damage, if not, then I am going skunk2 or Toda......
The Juns have left a bad taste in my mouth

For those who want to see the head, I have posted a large pic here. The pic is huge, so I did not post it on the board


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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 05:24 PM
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best of luck bro
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 05:41 PM
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he only put 250KM on them before this happened...not sure if you wanna call that "normal" use
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 06:25 PM
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Ouch... damn, sorry to see those pics, Wayne. And it's the beginning of the season too
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 08:11 PM
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I dont know the whole story, but from the looks of it, it seems that :
1. either the head or block was milled way too much resulting in valve to piston contact
2. the exhaust cam slipped or was adjusted way too far
3. Mishift at high rpms

But from the pics I am not surprised the cam broke as the valves hit the pistons really hard and something had to give. Usually its the valves that go though. Got any pics of the valves?

Of the miles you have on the cams, How many miles was actually in VTEC. I suspect that the cam was installed off and it ran okay on the low lobes, than when the high lobes(long duration) kicked in, WHAM. broken parts.

Keep us posted on the outcome because I am very interested in what JUN will say is the cause of broken cam.
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 08:25 PM
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nah if they hit the vales would have bent way before the cam broke.
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 08:49 PM
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nah if they hit the vales would have bent way before the cam broke.
True, Unless they played with cam timing, although I believe he said they had'nt. Those look like CTR pistons to me, those suckers have a hell of a dome on them.
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 10:14 PM
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better make sure the whole motor is still good........
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 10:31 PM
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ouch!
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 10:52 PM
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tear....
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Old Mar 19, 2002 | 04:20 AM
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I dont know the whole story, but from the looks of it, it seems that :
1. either the head or block was milled way too much resulting in valve to piston contact
The block has not been milled.... remember, there was no damage on the intake side
2. the exhaust cam slipped or was adjusted way too far
Cam gears set at 0,0. We never got a chance to do any cam gear tuning. The run was done at Dyno Power services in scarborough.
3. Mishift at high rpms
No high RPM shifting was involved in the dyno run. The run was done in 4th gear and the cam broke after the run was over, the technician's foot was off the gas and the engine rpm's were falling.
But from the pics I am not surprised the cam broke as the valves hit the pistons really hard and something had to give. Usually its the valves that go though. Got any pics of the valves?
The valves were bent, but not that badly, look at the previous posts and you will see a large pic of the head with the valves
Of the miles you have on the cams, How many miles was actually in VTEC. I suspect that the cam was installed off and it ran okay on the low lobes, than when the high lobes(long duration) kicked in, WHAM. broken parts.
No many of the 250 km were in VTEC. WE did the vtec tuning on the Hondata 60 km to the dyno, on the highway. On the first run, the A/F ratio was good. We had tuned the fuel and timing, but not the gears.
Keep us posted on the outcome because I am very interested in what JUN will say is the cause of broken cam.
JUN has the head now, and I will keep you guys informed about what they say
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Old Mar 19, 2002 | 12:47 PM
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did anyone notice that the cam broke between the same two lobes in all four places??

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Old Mar 19, 2002 | 01:31 PM
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hey where did you get these cams? is it in Toronto?
Also who was trying to tune your car while you were at the dyno?
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Old Mar 19, 2002 | 02:08 PM
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hey where did you get these cams? is it in Toronto?
Also who was trying to tune your car while you were at the dyno?
The cams were purchased from the US.....They are way too expensive in Toronto. The car was being tuned by the only Hondata dealer in Toronto, a small tuner call Neetronics. He knew what he was doing as we had the fuel and timing maps set in only a few runs in the street. The car went from feeling really sluggish (using the stock maps) to feeling really peppy, and no more bogging.
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Old Mar 19, 2002 | 02:40 PM
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that pic deserves a
HOLY ****!
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