Checked FAQ, more than a few broken links.... searching for 'third' gen is useless.... any help appreciated.


Looking for info on a 86 wagon 4x4.. i'm presuming it has the same engine as the 84-87 CRX DX, carb'd 1488cc 12 valve, 9.2:1

Is the engine code D15A or EW1? or are they one in the same? Need to know if this is a D series, and i can exchange blocks with otther D series or additional info on the EW1/2 series longblocks.

Any direction appreciated.
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redpepperracing.com will give you more info than here. the engine is an ew1, but they changed the name to a d-series. it's not a normal d-series, though. the d16a1 out of the first gen integra will swap in, however i think you have to use the teg tranny, which won't like your 4wd. hasport sells b-series mounts for those cars, but they're like 500 bucks. it would be cool, though, to have a b-series with a crv manual tranny allowing you to keep 4wd.

 

Thanks!

so, is a d-series, but not really. hrm... any idea why i can't swap in a newer D-series block? actual bolt pattern on the bellhousing/block or crank/flywheel clutch issues?

CRV manual tranny's are next to impossible to find, and quite expensive when available....

 

Newer D-series will not swap in because the mounts are all in different locations. You could swap in a D15A3 which is out of the 84-87 Si but its Fuel injected and you would have to swap some stuff over. The D15A2 is in the Hf and Dx's and is Carb'ed. Heres a link for swapping in a newer D.

http://www.redpepperracing.com...20487

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ChrisBrown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Newer D-series will not swap in because the mounts are all in different locations. </TD></TR></TABLE>

but newer D-series will bolt up to the 4x4 tranny in the 86 wagon, yes?

is this a comparable situation to the B20 in the early generation ludes vs. B18C/B20 blocks?

 

No way. The newer D-series engine will not bolt up to the older series tranny. Nothing really is compatible between the two, thats why everyone says its not really a D-series. The D15A3 is really the only option for a swap and it will bolt to the Awd tranny. You might wanna look into swapping in an Awd tranny out of an Ef wagon with a newer D-series.





Modified by ChrisBrown at 7:43 PM 12/31/2005

 

D16A1/ZC using stock 4wd tranny:
http://effinmotorworks.com/Zeno_Writeup.htm

 

the d16a1 will bolt up to the 4x4 tranny. you cant use a regular civic or crx block, it has to be a 4x4 block or a d16a1.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jeff420 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the d16a1 will bolt up to the 4x4 tranny. you cant use a regular civic or crx block, it has to be a 4x4 block or a d16a1. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup

 

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Oh really? Care to elaborate. I didnt run into any problems.




Modified by ChrisBrown at 6:12 PM 1/1/2006

 

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http://effinmotorworks.com/Zeno_Writeup.htm</TD></TR></TABLE>

^That's my swap. The wagons abilities have been reasonably improved. Its not the fastest car, but its a lot more fun than it was. There are some serious tranny differences between the 4wd and the 2wd versions of civics. As seen here, people insist they are not interchangeable but I've never had the two side by side to tell you why.

Before you look at a full swap, you should consider a carb upgrade(if your engine is in good shape). There are a lot of carb choices but I think the Webers are the best choice. There are like a million setups for whatever you want to do. They are well supported, reasonably priced and pretty easy to install compared to the stock setup.
The downdraft style offers a nice improvement in power and modest increases in mpg. If you want max power, the sidedrafts will offer impressive gains but usually at the expense of mpg.
You'll want to thoroughly learn about carbs before you tackle this...and Honda sites aren't much help. There is a carb subsection at Redpepper that is a good primer but still doesn't have all the answers.
I knew next to nothing about carbs when I started this...I used this book to help me get familiar with it all: http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ...83155

 

Thanks for everyone's input.

Eventually I shall try and update this with some additional info. I currently have a D16A1 browntop, and will be pulling the stock motor out of the 86 wagovan when the weather breaks.

Thanks again.

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