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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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Ok my car is making a knocking sound when in neutral..
but when I step on the clutch it makes a swirling sound then its silent.

And in 1st gear usually above 2500 rpm it makes a grinding noise and in 2nd gear the grinding noise isn't so bad.. 3,4 & 5th gear are sounding fine.. shifting is smooth in all gears too..
If i try downshift from 2nd to 1st it makes a really high pitch sound like a saw so i don't even try it anymore.

Also makes a clicking sound when I'm rolling at slow speeds.. very embarrassing in parking lots

I just changed the tranny oil with acura MTF today and it still the same.
Checked my axels & cv boot and no problem there either..

So does this seem like the tranny needs to be replaced?
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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sounds like a bad throw out bearing. .
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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i think a bearing or two ....might have gone bad in the tranny.....
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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are the throw out bearings an easy fix? or does it require a new clutch??
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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I've got the same symptoms and through my research on here, it seems to be the input shaft bearing. BauleyCivic did a real good DIY on inspecting it, so search for that. I'll be replacing mine as well as the clutch and the other bearings in a few weeks.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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I had the same symptoms. Took my car into get the clutch and throw out bearing replaced.

It turns out that the clutch was almost new, the throw out bearing was okay, and the reaking noise continues. It must be a bad transmission bearing.

Im going to start looking for a tranny too.

Does anyone know if the transmission for a 97 civic EX needs any manual transmission for that civic year or does it have to be the VTEC tranny?
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civic_in_LA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had the same symptoms. Took my car into get the clutch and throw out bearing replaced.

It turns out that the clutch was almost new, the throw out bearing was okay, and the reaking noise continues. It must be a bad transmission bearing.

Im going to start looking for a tranny too.

Does anyone know if the transmission for a 97 civic EX needs any manual transmission for that civic year or does it have to be the VTEC tranny?</TD></TR></TABLE>

could be any d-series hydro tranny but gear ratios are different

as to the 1st ?, its your input shaft
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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Thanks for the response Penies Hatchie. I figured it was the input shaft from reading the other threads.

I called around, and a used Japanese transmission for the EX model is going for about $500. and they will charge me about another $150. to instal it. Its kind of pricey, but that noise is driving me nuts. Its freaking embarrasing. And it sucks because I just spent $300 to change the clutch.

So is the input shaft replaceable? Or should I just get another transmission. If the input shaft is replaceable, how much does a job like that go for?
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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i have the same problem. it's the input shaft bearing.. i bought a spare tranny from a y8 for $215 and will replace it whenever i find time. i'll eventually try to get the other one fixed then sell it.. or keep it as a spare.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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Thanks for the info guys im going to wait until I get my tax refund money to do any repairs. For now i'll just get use to the embarrassment cuz each time the car slows down it makes a really loud clicking noise.
Sometimes I don't even want to release the clutch because of the noise!!
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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I know what you mean, Whenever i go anywhere there are people I know i press the clutch so that they will not think im rolling on a total clunker. Its freaking embarrasing, I swear. Im going to keep looking for a transmission to do the swap. I found a few other places around here in L.A. I'll call them tomorrow and get a quote.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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LIke I said, BauleyCivic did a whole write up on the input shaft bearing. Not too difficult tro replace when you have the tranny apart to do the clutch.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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dont most people replce the inoutshaft bearing and throwout bearing when they put in a new clutch? .. . makes since to me
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blkhatch92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont most people replce the inoutshaft bearing and throwout bearing when they put in a new clutch? .. . makes since to me</TD></TR></TABLE>

When doing a clutch job, people will typically replace the throw-out bearing and the pilot bearing (the one in the flywheel).

To the OP: It really does sound like your input shaft bearing. The bearing is ~$25. If you're mechanically inclined and have a second set of hands (and a Helms), try it yourself. It looks more complicated than it really is. Me and the old man got the whole job done in around 5 hours - from removing the tranny to getting it back in, that is.

Look up Bauley's post on replacing it...but I'd still recommend a Helms by your side.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EE_Chris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When doing a clutch job, people will typically replace the throw-out bearing and the pilot bearing (the one in the flywheel).

To the OP: It really does sound like your input shaft bearing. The bearing is ~$25. If you're mechanically inclined and have a second set of hands (and a Helms), try it yourself. It looks more complicated than it really is. Me and the old man got the whole job done in around 5 hours - from removing the tranny to getting it back in, that is.

Look up Bauley's post on replacing it...but I'd still recommend a Helms by your side.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It will also help if you have somebody helping who has cracked open a tranny before. Here is a great how to on doing the basic removal and replacement of the clutch:
http://www.honda-acura.net/for...39802

I can't wait to do mine in a few weeks.
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