so i went 2 the races last week I race 4 times. I jump on the freeway and like 15 miles away from my house I tried 2 downshift and I coudn't get it into gear. The only gears I had was 4th,5th, & reverse. I never had problems, no grinding or anything, gears whent in nicely so WTF happened? Can it be fixed?

Thanks in advance 4 ur imput



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Modified by K20A3T at 3:31 AM 12/30/2005


Modified by K20A3T at 3:39 AM 12/30/2005

 

anyone?

 

can u shift into these gears with the car off and not moving

 

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Well, you said you couldn't get into second but then you said you only have 4th, 5th and reverse? Did you loose 1st and 3rd also? Sounds like bent/broken shift fork...

 

the car on or off only has 4th,5th, & reverse, and like i said before i never had any problems with the tranny before.

thanks 4 ur imput

 

when was the last time u did an tranny fluid change?
try that GM syncromesh stuff...its expensive but its worth it...
that might fix it...otherwise check ur linkage

 

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try that GM syncromesh stuff...its expensive but its worth it...
that might fix it...otherwise check ur linkage </TD></TR></TABLE>

How is a fluid going to majically make a gear come back? The fact of the matter is that while changing fluid viscosity might help for worn out synchro teeth, its not going to repair broken/bent internal parts.

 

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try that GM syncromesh stuff...its expensive but its worth it...
that might fix it...otherwise check ur linkage </TD></TR></TABLE>

GM Synchromesh is not the solution to every transmission problem...you can mislead a lot of people into that misconception....

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How is a fluid going to majically make a gear come back? The fact of the matter is that while changing fluid viscosity might help for worn out synchro teeth, its not going to repair broken/bent internal parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly Best thing to do is check your linkage firsthand as it is the easiest...disconnect the linkage and use a punch tool and try to shift into the gears directly to the shift link on the trans. If that is a no go..then you will need to remove the transmission and open it up to see what is wrong internally

 

okay mr know it all sorry for my MISLEADING INPUT/COMMENT...
go with what they say...just trying to help out but then again i had forgotten
about the honda-tech ****'s...

 

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go with what they say...just trying to help out but then again i had forgotten
about the honda-tech ****'s...</TD></TR></TABLE>

You commenting at me or at Gearspeed? If you're making that remark about Gearspeed then you really don't know who you are talking about, do you? As for me, I didn't claim to be a know it all, but I do have well over 7 years of experience doing this crap for a hobby and a living... so I guess you could say I have learned a thing or two.

 

mmmkay...more power to you.
hope i didnt come out being a smart *** i was just trying to help out
never at one point did i mentioned the problems would MAGICALLY GO AWAY lol
plus its an open forum...so did the person ever found the problem?

 

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hope i didnt come out being a smart *** i was just trying to help out
never at one point did i mentioned the problems would MAGICALLY GO AWAY lol
plus its an open forum...so did the person ever found the problem?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not looking for power. I'm looking to help people learn. There is a difference.

What does "its an open forum" have to do with anything? No one told you to leave. I simply said synchromesh isn't going to fix internal damage. This should be obvious. Everyone rides the synchromesh ****. It gets old.

 

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go with what they say...just trying to help out but then again i had forgotten
about the honda-tech ****'s...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Looks like someone can't take criticism very well? Its all good man Relax...we just stopped a little misconception thats all. Its what it is all about! Nobody said you were a moron or didn't know sh#t. We all help eachother out and nobody is better than anyone else, just more knowledgeable in certain areas. Allows us to learn from one another

 

well said GearSpeed

 

thanks 4 ALL ur advice, so i open up the tranny and found 2 chunks of aluminum dime size. everything else 2 me looks fine. ill post pictures later on.
i dont really know **** about trannys, thats why i ask

 

Not that it matters now, but did you try to shift the tranny while on the bench and still together? Pics would be nice as we'd all like to have a look for a better diagnosis.

 

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Looks like someone can't take criticism very well? Its all good man Relax...we just stopped a little misconception thats all. Its what it is all about! Nobody said you were a moron or didn't know sh#t. We all help eachother out and nobody is better than anyone else, just more knowledgeable in certain areas. Allows us to learn from one another </TD></TR></TABLE>

cool beans...no hard feelings on this end...glad he found the problem and thanks for clearing everything up

 

did the ball and spring fall out? i have a tranny apart in my garage i could look at, something doesnt seem right to me, even though those pictures arent that good. i just woke up from a nap, so im still not fully awake, hopefully i can help you more when im not so groggy

 

no they didn't fall off. I try 2 take more close-up pics, but like i said before 2 me it doesn't look bad. nothing looks broken or worn. I never seen the inside of a tranny so i might be wrong.

thanks 4 all yall help

 

what do the shift forks look like? sounds like they could be bent

 

Had this problem on my old Eclipse. Turned out to be a simple spring which decided to snap. So, I made a new one out of an old coat hanger wire. Worked

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First of all, before you or anyone else re-assembles this transmission, that ring on the top of the mainshaft with the tab on it should be flipped upside down. The tab should be facing the gears, not the bearing.

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That missing chunk does not look like it's for the shift fork detent. It was a check ball in there that was probably installed when the case was machined. That section is also on the top of the trans. (when it is in the car) There are no shift forks or shift fork detent ***** in that area. They are at the bottom. The hole next to it corresponds to the reverse idler shaft.

I'm not sure what can be done as far as repairing that case because I think there is an oil passage there.

Also, why are all teh shift forks shifted in the down position? This should not be possible unless you've removed the selector mechanism. Please take a pic of the opposite side with the shift forks so we can verify whether or not they are bent. I doubt they are and I think the check ball in the case just got free and jammed a shift fork.

Where in Socal are you? I'd like to have a look at this transmission first hand.

 

Y'know, upon futher inspection of that last pic, it looks like that hole is for the transmission mount bolt. Probably went a little far and broke off a chunk on the inside, jamming a shift fork or the shift mechanism.

You say you found detent *****? There should be only two detent ***** and two detent springs removed if all you did was remove the case.

 

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First of all, before you or anyone else re-assembles this transmission, that ring on the top of the mainshaft with the tab on it should be flipped upside down. The tab should be facing the gears, not the bearing. </TD></TR></TABLE>


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Y'know, upon futher inspection of that last pic, it looks like that hole is for the transmission mount bolt. Probably went a little far and broke off a chunk on the inside, jamming a shift fork or the shift mechanism.
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Happens quite often!! I would suggest getting another case and a shorter mount bolt!!

 

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