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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 03:40 AM
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I've got a 1997 integra gsr with 105,000 miles on it. Tonight I was driving home in some really really heavy rain and my intake was sucking up lots of water. My fenderwells are missing the liners to more water than normal was being sucked up. Anyways, when this happens my car has loss of power until its cleared out. THen as i come to a stop light, my car idles to a stop and then it will not start again. I try to crank it over and even with a jump all it does is just click once and does nothing.

I know everything is getting power cause its hooked up to jumper cables the whole time. But i hear a click come from the start area but the engine will not turn over. I also tried to compression start it by rolling it down a hill and popping the clutch with the ignition on and being in 1st gear but the tires do not spin. I have no idea where to begin to troubleshoot this. Any information would be greatly appreciated!
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 04:18 AM
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you hydrolocked it buddy!

FYI its NOT ok to suck in water through ur intake
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 04:35 AM
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if you knew that your car was sucking in alot of water Why did you continue to drive your car in the rain. not to smart buddy..
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:09 AM
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Try this before you do anything else. Remove all of the spark plugs. Crank the motor, hopefully you will see water shooting out of the spark plug holes. Once it seems like all of the water is gone put new plugs in the car, and change the oil. Hopefully it will start right up.

If it does start go and get a compression check to make sure you did not damage anything. I have read a lot of posts about guys bending a rod or causing other damage from hydrolocking.

If you get away without damaging the engine get rid of the CAI and get at SRI for the winter. If you wont do that at least get the AEM bypass valve.
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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compressing water rocks..
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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you have a cold air intake (CAI) and you dont have a bypass valve..
I hope that your car is alright. but man.. you should be more aware of what you have, and the disadvatages of having it in your car..
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:50 AM
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yup sounds like a hydrolock to me........minus to a full rebuild while your at it trying to get all the water sucked out :-D
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 07:52 AM
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oh man i have soo many type o's! lol ..i mean minus well do a full rebuild :-D...been at work since 4 in the monrin ahahaha explains why!
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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no fun... this is why i went with SRI.... hopefully the removing of the sparkplugs works. Can i ask why there is a need to change the oil too? Does water get in there with the oil when you hydrolock?

A kid at my school just hydrolocked his lancer... thought he was all cool blasting through the flodded parking lot...oops
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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If water has made it into the combustion chamber there is a good chance some of it has got mixed in with the oil. As oil and water do not mix the water will sit ontop of the oil, this can cause problems later on down the road.
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gmannino &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> my intake was sucking up lots of water. My fenderwells are missing the liners to more water than normal was being sucked up. </TD></TR></TABLE>

So sucking water into your engine is a normal thing?
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TRE_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So sucking water into your engine is a normal thing? </TD></TR></TABLE>

hahah
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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Sorry to tell you bud, but youre probably going to need a new engine, start shopping around. It happened to me when my area had flooding, and I got lucky and found a cheap b18b with 45k on it. Hope you get as lucky as I did, go the insurance route and make them pay for it as a total loss claim, chances are you wont need to spend a dime, but you have to make it look like whatever killed your engine was unavoidable. Good luck, hope everything works out, but during a rainy season TAKE THE CAI OFF, just put it back on when the rain is gone.
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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I just started to suck water a few days ago and then again last night. I've drove in the rain many times before without problems but last night was insane rain.

Anyways I went to get my car today and pulled out all the plugs and cranked it a few times and saw water shoot up out of the cylinders. I reinstalled the plugs and drove it home. I did hear a slight increase in valve clicking and I think im gong to do a valve adjustment and compression test on it today. So far everything seems to be ok and it still has power. Thanks for your guy's help.
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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do those bypass valves for the aem cai work or is it a scam?
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2000turbogsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do those bypass valves for the aem cai work or is it a scam?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea they work, but only when the filter is completley submerged in water from what i hear. CAI's are a scam to begin with , IMO.
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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man, good luck, a good reason to stay away from cold air aintakes.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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so yea, I installed new plugs, oil, and other maintanence stuff and the car seems to run fine, but it has experience some loss of power. I did a compression test on it and my cyliners are as follow. 135, 185, 195, 200 in order from first cylinder to fourth. I was wondering what possible ways i could do to increase the compression in that first cylinder. I was thinking maybe new o-rings but i dont have much experience with the b18c engine. I will also do a valve lash adjustment soon to try to get rid of some of that knocking. I feel very lucky to still have a powerful engine or at least a working one.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 12:46 AM
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the 135 compression reading is bad. they all appear to be a little on the low side. more than likely you either bent a valve, messed up your piston rings, or bent a connecting rod. You need to talk to a mechanic and possible have them do a leakdown test. The Helms manual states that the nominal or ideal cylinder pressure is 270 with a minimum acceptable value of 135 and a maximum variation among pressure readings across all four cylinders of 28.
Good luck fixing the hydrolock. Just do what i did and hack your cai into a wai. a Sawz-all fixes all. haha.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 01:00 AM
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oh, and try this. Pour a little bit (capful) of oil in cylinder with low compression and then repeat the compression test. This will test for ring blow by by creating a "false seal" with oil. If your compression number jumps back up then your rings are bad and there could be other problems. but look at the "integra" forum because there is another thread of someone that has low compression numbers. There might be some good info in there for you. But basically, it all boils down to the fact that you potentially majorly screwed up your motor. If you need parts, let me know, i am parting out, or selling, my entire 96 gsr motor.
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