i searched and searched but could find a definate ansewer.
i have a stock gsr head and i just orderd a blox intake mani... i want to put in the ctr cams in my car but what to do i need? just the intake side? intake and exhaust side? when i was searching i got all confused on wich to buy..also can i use my stock valve train if i keep the stock redline and still be safe?

mods my car has-
i/h/e
chipped p28


thanks for the help

 

my little brother is running the ctr intake cam with stock head an valve springs and it runs just fine

 

but do you need both intake cam and exhaust cam or not?

 

You don't need both.

The intake cam makes the most difference, so if you are cheap, just buy the intake cam.

 

im not cheap so would it be worth it to get both or just get the intake side?

 

bump

 

goodnight bump hopefully someone can ansewer my question....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91 jdm ls &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not cheap so would it be worth it to get both or just get the intake side?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, it is worth it to get both. You will get better gains out of both as opposed to one.

 

Where can you get both CTR cams? I have only been able to find the intake cam on HMotorsonline.com. Can someone give me a little guidence? I am wanting to do the same thing. Thanks.

 

inlinefour.com

 

Anyone know any where cheaper to get the cams from. Inlinefour.com has them for $350 a pop. HMotorsonline.com has the intake cam for $239 shipped. Now where can I get the exaust cam for around the same price?

 

try to look in the forsale section here on hondatech

 

im pretty certain that most vtec cars have the SAME exhaust cam...look up the specs before you **** bricks trying to buy both....i know for a type r and gsr there is NO difference between the exhaust cams ....same with the b16

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lVlemphizStylez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im pretty certain that most vtec cars have the SAME exhaust cam...look up the specs before you **** bricks trying to buy both....i know for a type r and gsr there is NO difference between the exhaust cams ....same with the b16</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, there is a difference between the exhaust cams.

The GSR exhaust cam has 227 degrees of duration and 9.4 mm of lift.

The ITR exhaust cam has 235 degrees of duration and 10.5 mm of lift

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Das Schmoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yes, there is a difference between the exhaust cams.

The GSR exhaust cam has 227 degrees of duration and 9.4 mm of lift.

The ITR exhaust cam has 235 degrees of duration and 10.5 mm of lift</TD></TR></TABLE>
OWNED!!!

 

good contribution to the thread

 

wut about buddy club spec 4 r they any good

 

The 00-01 ITR and CTR cams are exactly the same.

Get both the intake and exhaust, and get something to tune with becuase that will be needed (piggyback or standalone) along with some cam gears.

I would strongly suggest to upgrading to atleast the ITR valvesprings. Better safe than sorry IMO.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01blackgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The 00-01 ITR and CTR cams are exactly the same.

Get both the intake and exhaust, and get something to tune with becuase that will be needed (piggyback or standalone) along with some cam gears.

I would strongly suggest to upgrading to atleast the ITR valvesprings. Better safe than sorry IMO.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

there is no need to upgrade the springs with the cam install if youre keeping the stock redline..tons of gsr's running around with ctr intake cam and stock redline (stock valve train)

 

I'm currently using the ctr intake cam and the stock gsr exhaust cam, stock gsr valve train, skunk2 IM, i/h/e and a chipped p28 w/ my all motor tune. Click on my vouch thread in my sig to see my dyno graph with the set up listed above.

I've been running this same exact set up for the past 3 years...no problems what so ever. Just dont plan on revving past 8200 if that!

 

I heard somewhere that the gsr intake springs are the same as the itr exhaust springs. Can you do that and get away with gsr valves and retainers and keep the dual butterflies?

 

what?? dual butterflies?? are you talking about the gsr intake manifold??? what bearing does that have on a valve train issue???

 

im talking about the IM, because I heard that if you run ctr cams you should replace the IM for a single runner like Skunk2

 

Ideally to get all the gains you can you would get both cams, valve train to rev higher since the cams make power past stock gsr redline, single stage IM, and some sort of tuning.

I had the cams in for a while with stock redline and decided if I was going yo upgrade the valve train I might as well upgrade the cams. So my car is in the shop for a while =P. With BC4's I would think you should upgrade the valve train, w/the BC3+'s some of the itr guys are running stock valve train w/o a problem.