american cars vs teg
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From: sea,WA in my car
ok instead of sayin yea my v8 dodge or ford or chevy will rip your teg in pieces and then having a teg owner say *** you and ur american cars ima smoke you. american cars suck..... or whatever people say
lets do a fair comparison:
lets say we take a obd1 1995 ls and gsr unmodified with everything stock that has
1.8L, 4 cylinder, 16 valve, DOHC(vtec)
redline: 6800 RPM,8100RPM
HP:142(ls),170(gsr)
TQ:127(ls),128(gsr)
0-60time : 7.6 sec(ls),7.2 sec(gsr)
1/4mile:16.1 sec(ls),15.5 sec(gsr)
MPG:25/30 mpg(ls),25/31 mpg(gsr)
and compare these 2 with american made 4 cyl cars that were made in the same year or year before(after) that have similar engine specs and see how much power they make
lets do a fair comparison:
lets say we take a obd1 1995 ls and gsr unmodified with everything stock that has
1.8L, 4 cylinder, 16 valve, DOHC(vtec)
redline: 6800 RPM,8100RPM
HP:142(ls),170(gsr)
TQ:127(ls),128(gsr)
0-60time : 7.6 sec(ls),7.2 sec(gsr)
1/4mile:16.1 sec(ls),15.5 sec(gsr)
MPG:25/30 mpg(ls),25/31 mpg(gsr)
and compare these 2 with american made 4 cyl cars that were made in the same year or year before(after) that have similar engine specs and see how much power they make
American cars and integra's are apples and oranges.
There is better and more advanced technology in integra's, and they last longer. However, then are given small motors.
American cars have less technology and are low quality, but they give you a v-8 dirt cheap.
Comparing american cars with similar sized n/a engines to integra's is laughable, because they don't even come close performance wise.
There was an article that compared the rsx with 4 or so other cars all of which were forced induction. THE RSX WON.
There is better and more advanced technology in integra's, and they last longer. However, then are given small motors.
American cars have less technology and are low quality, but they give you a v-8 dirt cheap.
Comparing american cars with similar sized n/a engines to integra's is laughable, because they don't even come close performance wise.
There was an article that compared the rsx with 4 or so other cars all of which were forced induction. THE RSX WON.
if you want to go by numbers then you can put the neon as a competitor:
1995 Neon Sport
I-4
150hp
131lbs*ft
2448lbs curb weight
27/33 mpg
...would i buy one...? Probably not ever, but that's just me.
but as the person above said...these are two completely different cars. The build quality, driveability, technology, and various other things are completely different. Performance-wise they're in the same class and i'm sure with enough modification they can both overtake each other in one way or the other...choose your battle and choose your weapons, different cars are suited for different purposes.
btw, what is the purpose for this post?
1995 Neon Sport
I-4
150hp
131lbs*ft
2448lbs curb weight
27/33 mpg
...would i buy one...? Probably not ever, but that's just me.
but as the person above said...these are two completely different cars. The build quality, driveability, technology, and various other things are completely different. Performance-wise they're in the same class and i'm sure with enough modification they can both overtake each other in one way or the other...choose your battle and choose your weapons, different cars are suited for different purposes.
btw, what is the purpose for this post?
American cars are a waste of money....well most of them
my neigbor has a 99 Lexus LS 400 and his wife has a Ford Crown Victoria (idk the year)
But he says he doesn't fill up as much as his wife does and they both have V8s
I dont know **** about American cars but I can say that they dont ride better than imports
my neigbor has a 99 Lexus LS 400 and his wife has a Ford Crown Victoria (idk the year)
But he says he doesn't fill up as much as his wife does and they both have V8s
I dont know **** about American cars but I can say that they dont ride better than imports
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1995 Neon Sport
I-4
150hp
131lbs*ft
2448lbs curb weight
27/33 mpg
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Tha sad thing is that its a 2.0 litre and should make more than 150hp. The best thing i could think to compare to would be the svt focus but it wasnt around in 95.
1995 Neon Sport
I-4
150hp
131lbs*ft
2448lbs curb weight
27/33 mpg
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Tha sad thing is that its a 2.0 litre and should make more than 150hp. The best thing i could think to compare to would be the svt focus but it wasnt around in 95.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raverx3m »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok instead of sayin yea my v8 dodge or ford or chevy will rip your teg in pieces and then having a teg owner say *** you and ur american cars ima smoke you. american cars suck..... or whatever people say
lets do a fair comparison:
lets say we take a obd1 1995 ls and gsr unmodified with everything stock that has
1.8L, 4 cylinder, 16 valve, DOHC(vtec)
redline: 6800 RPM,8100RPM
HP:142(ls),170(gsr)
TQ:127(ls),128(gsr)
0-60time : 7.6 sec(ls),7.2 sec(gsr)
1/4mile:16.1 sec(ls),15.5 sec(gsr)
MPG:25/30 mpg(ls),25/31 mpg(gsr)
and compare these 2 with american made 4 cyl cars that were made in the same year or year before(after) that have similar engine specs and see how much power they make</TD></TR></TABLE>
Um...isn't this what they do in just about every other issue of Car & Driver, Road & Track, and Motortrend? There is nothing new to be gained here in this thread other then speculation.
lets do a fair comparison:
lets say we take a obd1 1995 ls and gsr unmodified with everything stock that has
1.8L, 4 cylinder, 16 valve, DOHC(vtec)
redline: 6800 RPM,8100RPM
HP:142(ls),170(gsr)
TQ:127(ls),128(gsr)
0-60time : 7.6 sec(ls),7.2 sec(gsr)
1/4mile:16.1 sec(ls),15.5 sec(gsr)
MPG:25/30 mpg(ls),25/31 mpg(gsr)
and compare these 2 with american made 4 cyl cars that were made in the same year or year before(after) that have similar engine specs and see how much power they make</TD></TR></TABLE>
Um...isn't this what they do in just about every other issue of Car & Driver, Road & Track, and Motortrend? There is nothing new to be gained here in this thread other then speculation.
ok wanna compare stock american cars 4 cylinder to stock honda 4 cylinder....
srt4...forged internals...can be boosted to hell and wont break...runs low 14's high 13's stock
ill be awaiting the response from honda....so far all theyve made are peppy cars in the high 14's....mr dodge has his warranty running 13's....you break into the low 14's an honda dealership wont look at that turbo charged honda...
this thead is pointless and needs to be locked because too many honda owners are getting butt hurt when someone says honda isnt the end all to performance
srt4...forged internals...can be boosted to hell and wont break...runs low 14's high 13's stock
ill be awaiting the response from honda....so far all theyve made are peppy cars in the high 14's....mr dodge has his warranty running 13's....you break into the low 14's an honda dealership wont look at that turbo charged honda...
this thead is pointless and needs to be locked because too many honda owners are getting butt hurt when someone says honda isnt the end all to performance
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too many honda owners are getting butt hurt when someone says honda isnt the end all to performance</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nobody said that in here.
N/A power is more impressive than FI power. Thats why i chose the svt focus for comparison. The srt4 would be better compared to a fi import like a silvia or something.
too many honda owners are getting butt hurt when someone says honda isnt the end all to performance</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nobody said that in here.
N/A power is more impressive than FI power. Thats why i chose the svt focus for comparison. The srt4 would be better compared to a fi import like a silvia or something.
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So let me get this right honda makes a car that will break you into the 14's and you put a turbo kit on and it runs less than a second faster??? Are you shoping on ebay for your turbo kits? Those little electric fans that you put in your intake do not count as a turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
someone missed the point....good job
my point is his neon is running 13's with a warranty ....whereas your honda wouldnt be...but i think that was too much for you to grasp...
So let me get this right honda makes a car that will break you into the 14's and you put a turbo kit on and it runs less than a second faster??? Are you shoping on ebay for your turbo kits? Those little electric fans that you put in your intake do not count as a turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
someone missed the point....good job
my point is his neon is running 13's with a warranty ....whereas your honda wouldnt be...but i think that was too much for you to grasp...
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ok how about u read the topic again
you comparing a turbocharged 2.4L engine made in 2005 that srt4 has to what? obviously its gonna have forged pistons
compared to
1.8L n/a engine made in 1995
you comparing a turbocharged 2.4L engine made in 2005 that srt4 has to what? obviously its gonna have forged pistons
compared to
1.8L n/a engine made in 1995
so you want to compare N/A 4 bangers??? is it something to be proud of being the fastest slow car??? Whatever floats your boat i guess....guess its that pride one would receive from winning the special olympics...
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hey, welcome to the loser club! Unfortunately you are the only member....sorry...
hey, welcome to the loser club! Unfortunately you are the only member....sorry...
i think youre the one in the loser club for thinking your honda is a ferrari...
"Honda makes the quickest 1.8l n/a cars" wow....HUGE accomplishment with those neck breaking 15 second cars...
"Honda makes the quickest 1.8l n/a cars" wow....HUGE accomplishment with those neck breaking 15 second cars...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lVlemphizStylez »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so you want to compare N/A 4 bangers???
YES
is it something to be proud of being the fastest slow car???
What is fast is relative to the vehicle you are driving and yes some people are proud of their 4 bangers.
Whatever floats your boat i guess....guess its that pride one would receive from winning the special olympics...
Whats your problem, this thread was fine untill you came in here starting ****.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lVlemphizStylez »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> too many honda owners are getting butt hurt when someone says honda isnt the end all to performance</TD></TR></TABLE>
It sounds like you get all butthurt when people talk about their 4 bangers.
Go Away plz.
YES
is it something to be proud of being the fastest slow car???
What is fast is relative to the vehicle you are driving and yes some people are proud of their 4 bangers.
Whatever floats your boat i guess....guess its that pride one would receive from winning the special olympics...
Whats your problem, this thread was fine untill you came in here starting ****.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lVlemphizStylez »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> too many honda owners are getting butt hurt when someone says honda isnt the end all to performance</TD></TR></TABLE>
It sounds like you get all butthurt when people talk about their 4 bangers.
Go Away plz.
its a forum...you have nothing constructive to retort with besides go away....mainly because there is nothing in the defense of a 15 second car trying to be called fast...Youd rather me leave this thread because it hurts you to see that 1.8l n/a is not an efficient way to go fast...
This thread was made so all the teg owners could sit around and go omg v8's blow in the privacy of their own domain...why?? because this thread would get laughed at in any other board...so youre upset that someone among yourself disagrees??? pfft you go away
like it was said before...i drive a teg...i love it...but my feet are firmly planted in that realm called reality...my teg is not a porsche...i love modifying it...but i realize it has limitations and there are more efficient means of being fast...
This thread was made so all the teg owners could sit around and go omg v8's blow in the privacy of their own domain...why?? because this thread would get laughed at in any other board...so youre upset that someone among yourself disagrees??? pfft you go away
like it was said before...i drive a teg...i love it...but my feet are firmly planted in that realm called reality...my teg is not a porsche...i love modifying it...but i realize it has limitations and there are more efficient means of being fast...
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I had plenty to say if you read my previous posts. So what ppl think their 15 second cars are fast why should you care, so far all youve done is cause commotion. If dont like this thread then dont post in it.
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And you care because..........................
Youre the only person in here getting all pissed off about nothing.
Speaking of worthless retorts
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I had plenty to say if you read my previous posts. So what ppl think their 15 second cars are fast why should you care, so far all youve done is cause commotion. If dont like this thread then dont post in it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lVlemphizStylez »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This thread was made so all the teg owners could sit around and go omg v8's blow in the privacy of their own domain...why?? because this thread would get laughed at in any other board</TD></TR></TABLE>
And you care because..........................
Youre the only person in here getting all pissed off about nothing.
Speaking of worthless retorts
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