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Old Mar 17, 2002 | 12:54 PM
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Default Expert racers: Hawk HPS and HP pads

Are the Hawk HPS brake pads good for a one day track session or I have to go for the more expensive HP pad to run safer??
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Old Mar 17, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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I would think they would be ok, although I never used them. I have another set of front rotors with hawk blues that go on the type r whenever it sees the track. Good luck.
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Old Mar 17, 2002 | 09:37 PM
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I used Hawk HP+ for few Driving School last season and they did a good job......no sign of overheat or major brake fade.

I believe HP Plus are good enough to handle driving school or track day ( but not competition )

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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 02:54 AM
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Default Re: Expert racers: Hawk HPS and HP pads (WhosITR)

Depends on the car, how your drive (level of experience, etc.), and which track you are going to.

If you are a novice at a track like Homestead, Gingerman, or VIR...the HP Plus should do just fine. Even on a light-braking circuit, an intermediate driver should be able to use the HP Plus with good results.

Advanced drivers or those going to a brake-intensive track should consider more aggressive compounds such as the Carbotech Panther Plus or Panther XP, depending on how the car is setup (tires, suspension, etc.).

HPS...definitely not...it is a street pad, and should not be used on the track. It should work well in most cases for auto-x, however.

HTH... -Andie
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 03:37 AM
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Default Re: Expert racers: Hawk HPS and HP pads ('01ITR#950)

Me and my friends all use HP+ everyday street and tracks, they are cheap and good, one of my friends tried "blue" and finished the rotors less than 2 months for just street driving.
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 04:04 AM
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Good replies, thanks guys!
I'm in a budget and also I'm a beginner on the Sebring track so, I might go with the Hawk HP plus. ($$ you know)
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 04:17 AM
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Me and my friends all use HP+ everyday street and tracks, they are cheap and good, one of my friends tried "blue" and finished the rotors less than 2 months for just street driving.
HP+ is a good daily driver and very light track duty. Driving blues on the street is a bad idea. If you drive around on cold hawk blues, you might as well stick the rotor on a lathe. See all that dust on the wheels? It's not pad dust, it's rotor dust.

When they are up to race temps (hence the term race pad), they are actually not any harsher than other compounds.

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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 04:23 AM
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HPS? on an autocross, you may survive. I use HP+ (higher temp than HPS) on a road course and I smoked them after 3 laps. Hawk Blue is what you need if you are hardcore.
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 04:30 AM
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Dang, a good topic... just what I also was wondering about...

If I do a beginner (follow the leader) course at Road Atlanta, can I get away with HPS? I plan on doing about 3 events this year... probably all of them in novice, beginner class. Money is kinda tight right now and if I can do without extra set of rotors, that would be great. (The advice from the competition forum was something equivalent to Hawk Blues + extra rotors... but like I said, money is tight, especially with the fee for the event). Thanks.
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 06:31 AM
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I never been to Road Atlanta.....not sure how heavy is the braking zone.....but if you're novice and the track event is a school and not racing I think you should be fine with HP+ ( also with flesh brake fuild)

I used HP+ for my driving school @ Lime Rock, Summit Point......and they're just fine
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 06:36 AM
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I don't recommend HP+ pads for the street, they warped my rotors in a matter of months.
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 06:38 AM
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Brake pads don't warp rotors.

Improperly torque lug nuts, parking a car while the brakes are still very hot, and uneven cooling of the brake system will promote rotor warpage. But brake pad selection, in and of itself, is NOT a cause of warped rotors.

-Andie
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 07:17 AM
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HP+s were good to me, 1.5 driving school events and 1500 miles of street driving before they expired. I am by no means an expert driver though.
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