Ok I've been thinking of the h22 swap for awhile but decided not to do it. Lately i've been wanting to go turbo, but there are some things i wanted to know first. Main thing is i have 170k plus miles on the f22b1, but it still runs strong, been dynoed and ran at the track(look at sig). Should i boost a high mileage motor? or should i get it rebuilt then turbo or just go ahead with the h22?

If I go boost what are some good sites to piece together a turbo for a good price?
Also is there anyone that makes a equal length tubular manifold for the accord, or do you have to get it custom made?

thanks any comments will help

 

get a compression test.

 

do a compression test yourself the tool is under $30 if all checks out good go ahead and boost, homemadeturbo.com is your friend for turbo on the cheap unfortuneatley you can't run a dsm mani on the f22b but I beleive lsdmotorsports may offer one, a equal length tubular manifold is only needed for high hp and boost applications I dought thats what your looking at since your boosting a stock engine. I would get an inexspensive log mani, 48/60 turbo off of a tbird, some dsm 450's, cca intercooler, stealthmode oil lines, p06 ecu with uberdata,chrome, etc. which ever you prefer, stealthmode charge pipe kit and couplers. I would also recomend upgrading your clutch while your at it. 170k on a stock clutch with boost will not last long

 

Turbocharging A high mileage motor can be risky buisness. There are several components that may need to be replaced before you do such a thing. Including but not limited to: all gaskets, seals, belts, drivetrain components(axles, shafts, clutch and maybe even parts of the transmission), and even some of the pulleys.

You also probably want to invest in some high compression pistons and definatly beef up the brakes and exhaust.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by voiceinurhead05 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Turbocharging A high mileage motor can be risky buisness. There are several components that may need to be replaced before you do such a thing. Including but not limited to: all gaskets, seals, belts, drivetrain components(axles, shafts, clutch and maybe even parts of the transmission), and even some of the pulleys.

You also probably want to invest in some high compression pistons and definatly beef up the brakes and exhaust.</TD></TR></TABLE>

WOW! high compression piston with turbo, that's a new concept.

might as well buy a spare motor with the high compression piston because it's gonna donate like a ****

do a compression test first, i would tighten the percentage down a tad from the normal 10% mark

 

What should the compression numbers be? I will probably get a friend of mine to do it tomorrow for free.

About the clutch, that is coming no matter what.

Im only wanting to run about 6psi daily and take it to the track on weekends, once i get it rebuilt and maybe some internals i will boost more, but im not sure what the stock bottom end will take.

thanks for the input

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DarKStaR5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im only wanting to run about 6psi daily</TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL - that's what you say NOW. hell that's what everyone says. until they experience it and want MORE knowing the power is there and waiting with the turn of a screw...

 

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WOW! high compression piston with turbo, that's a new concept.

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My mistake... although that does sound like a new and interesting concept.

What I meant was a new set of pistons and rods that are strong enough to handle the higher compression that boosting would cause. I was a bit sleepy which causes me to get things confused... my bad.

 

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My mistake... although that does sound like a new and interesting concept.

What I meant was a new set of pistons and rods that are strong enough to handle the higher compression that boosting would cause. I was a bit sleepy which causes me to get things confused... my bad.</TD></TR></TABLE>

don't take it personally, i just want to make it clear before some young grass hopper buy a shitload of high compression h beam and blew his motor the next day.

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LOL - that's what you say NOW. hell that's what everyone says. until they experience it and want MORE knowing the power is there and waiting with the turn of a screw...</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL, i was running closed to 10psi, yep, i swear i would not run over 7 with california 91 **** water gas

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DarKStaR5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What should the compression numbers be? I will probably get a friend of mine to do it tomorrow for free.

About the clutch, that is coming no matter what.

Im only wanting to run about 6psi daily and take it to the track on weekends, once i get it rebuilt and maybe some internals i will boost more, but im not sure what the stock bottom end will take.

thanks for the input</TD></TR></TABLE>

clutch upgrade is given, you know you'll need it when it starting to smell really bad when you launch..lol'd

i have no idea for your generation, perhaps someone with a manual should clip in, but all the number shouldn't vary 10 percent.
get a good 7 crank each, at least do twice to make sure.

i assume that you know how to use the compression gauge so i wouldn't drag you with some boring steps

 

Sorry about that I meant to say its a 5th gen.

Yes i have used a compression gauge. So if i do have good compression, it will be alright to boost?

 

boosted F22

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by voiceinurhead05 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Turbocharging A high mileage motor can be risky buisness. There are several components that may need to be replaced before you do such a thing. Including but not limited to: all gaskets, seals, belts, drivetrain components(axles, shafts, clutch and maybe even parts of the transmission), and even some of the pulleys.

You also probably want to invest in some high compression pistons and definatly beef up the brakes and exhaust.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Basically, don't listen to this guy.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DarKStaR5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry about that I meant to say its a 5th gen.

Yes i have used a compression gauge. So if i do have good compression, it will be alright to boost?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep .

 

haha I am building a boosted f22b1 right now for my 94 accord. I'm going with higher compression pistons than stock 9.5:1 vs 8.8:1 ... but I sorta have an idea what I'm doing and will have the complemting parts to handle the boost. HighER Compression is good if you have good gas like 93-110 octane available and have a large turbo that will need help with spooling.

 

actually I shouldn't have said anything... disregard my post if you are boosting on stock internals... it will only confuse you as Im not using stock length rods or even a f22 crank for that matter.

first thing to do when you boost is get the thing tuned and leave it alone until you can dump a bunch more money in and turn the boost up

 

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Basically, don't listen to this guy.

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Ummmm.... ok fine don't. Just dont come crying to me when you snap a belt, burn out your clutch, expletive over your tranny, blow a gasket, or worse your whole motor because the existing parts are aged and therefore not sturdy enough.

I never said that it would be impossible to turbocharge your motor as is. However, if you want the freedom to run more that the 6 psi of boost you mentioned (let's face it, you probably will) without worrying about the problems mentioned above, strengthen your engine by replacing the parts I mentioned.

or you can take your chances and listen to .ken

 

don't be a pansy, f blocks are cheap if it blow big deal, a belt oh no if a belt breaks than he's screwed, oil pump I could see replacing, but gaskets it probually already leaks who cares, if compression is good than the headgasket is probually good, its a good idea to check these things out but a bad belt unless if its the timing belt won't affect boosting your car or a small oil leak. If compression is good I say go for it

 

if u do have good compression, it will be good to boost. since f engine is getting cheaper u can always find another one and have more fun with it

 

id say boost an h23, but thats just me