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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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Ok so I'm getting a b16b head with a b16a bottem end. The head has port n polish, ported intake man. and bored TB + stock ctr cams and valvtrain. the bottom end has ctr 81.25mm pistons, new rod and main bearings + arp rod bolts! B16B trany with LSD, ats 3-4-5 gears, toda flywheel Bully 4 puck stage 3 clutch, BnM short trow and oil cooler. aem fuel rail fule pressure regulator and gauge, 450cc injectors, Spoon headers and a custom borla 2 1/2" cat back!!! This engine on a new mustang dyni made 187 whp and 115 ft-lbs of torque!!!

How can I inprove this engine while keeping it realiable???

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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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Higher compression and wilder cams?
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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some work was already doneon the combustion chamber and the head was miled a bit= the comp is 11.8:1....I don't want it higher but cams is what I was thinking!!! What cams would be good if I want to use the above comp. and want to keep a streetable idle!!!

Stoker kit?
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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12.3 compression mang!
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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why didnt you just go b16b everything?
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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b16a has higher compression tho doesnt it?
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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This engine was build to race in Canada's Hankook touring...The guy who sold this setup to me has the b16b crank and rods + the crank has been knifed edge by a machine shop!!!
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 05:11 AM
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how many miles on it? sounds like the kind of work id do to my b16a if i were to keep it but decided to go b20 vtec mang gotta love the torque
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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Cams and tuning -- I didnt see what EMS you were planning on using or having it tuned with

The CTR pistons with B16a bottom already yield some high comp ---clay the motor if you go with a wild cam ---- with the head milled and using domed pistons I would be wary of piston to valve contact with an agressive cam

Short of building a new bottom end you could probably switch to ITB's, get a better header and upgrade the valvetrain

I would keep the B16 bottom and avoid a stroker or buy a bare C1 block and start from there if you decide to go forged --- B16b rods are rare from what I have seen so using that combo would be the harder route

I'm sure others will chime in
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 03:53 AM
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Thanks for all the imput guys!!! As for EMS I'm running a AEM. You think I can get better headers then the spoon??? This engine is coming out of it's race car ( hankook touring in Canada) this weekend and the guy is not sure if the spoon collector is 2 1/2" or 2 1/4"? This engine was raced twice and the guy is getting it check but the best machine shop arround...I forgot to mention that the bottom end is balanced + new main and rod bearings + new arp rod bolts + I will be getting new oem gaskets + new itr valve springs and retaines and valve seals + the head will be resurfaced if it needs it!

ITB's???
Has for cams and new valvetrain I'm up to the challenge but I have had some expensive dyno time do to stage 3 cams in an other build...I need a relatively stock idle but good power gains vs the current CTR's???
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 04:16 AM
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ITB=Individual Throttle Bodies
As for cams I think some skunk2 stage1, toda A or RM m22 would be a good set of streetable cams for you!!
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGNA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16a has higher compression tho doesnt it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

hahahaa r u serious
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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hondata+better cams+tuning=more power
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcMONSTER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hondata+better cams+tuning=more power</TD></TR></TABLE>

do exactly wat u said with the B16b
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLaCkMaNEg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

hahahaa r u serious</TD></TR></TABLE>

type R POWA!!
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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yes sir
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