100 octane = <3
i finally tried it, and im in love. it cost me a pretty penny but it was worth it... it finally felt like i got my moneys worth out of my lsv build...
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only real risk is ruining your O2 sensor after long use.
only real risk is ruining your O2 sensor after long use.
i honestly dont see how it could make a difference..if you have your car tuned for 91 or 93, using 100 isnt going to be any better...unless you can some how change your tune for different octane..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nickG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i honestly dont see how it could make a difference..if you have your car tuned for 91 or 93, using 100 isnt going to be any better...unless you can some how change your tune for different octane..</TD></TR></TABLE>
its just a waste, and might might accually get slower.
its just a waste, and might might accually get slower.
You can also *** up your catalytic converter if it's not unleaded..I use to run 100 in my gsr, not thinking about this. I eventually threw a cel and it was because of my converter. It eats away at the inside of it
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its not really a waste. if you have enough compression 100 octane will def. help you. you have to understand the concept of octane though. the higher the octane the higher the burning temp. is.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by teggy182 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its not really a waste. if you have enough compression 100 octane will def. help you. you have to understand the concept of octane though. the higher the octane the higher the burning temp. is.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea concept of octane is the resitance to detonation it yeilds...and thats it. you want the engine to run the lowest amount of octane that it can before it detonates. that will give you the best burn. i understand octane ratings...i use to run 93 in my car(long ago) before i learned about octane ratings.....accually my car got faster and better gas mileage.
from what i understand the OP has a stock bottom end ls-vtec....meaning he can get away with running like 89-91. running that high of octane on that car is a waste, but its his money.
yea concept of octane is the resitance to detonation it yeilds...and thats it. you want the engine to run the lowest amount of octane that it can before it detonates. that will give you the best burn. i understand octane ratings...i use to run 93 in my car(long ago) before i learned about octane ratings.....accually my car got faster and better gas mileage.
from what i understand the OP has a stock bottom end ls-vtec....meaning he can get away with running like 89-91. running that high of octane on that car is a waste, but its his money.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by argetni aruca »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lies. my coworker used the 100 octane when he went up north and he told me the difference was night and day.
he has a CL, and he told me the car felt a lot faster. Accellerate a lot faster and felt like it had way more power.
of course it was on a 3.2 v6.
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plecebo effect....unless he was running the wrong octane to begin with until he started to use a higher octane.
he has a CL, and he told me the car felt a lot faster. Accellerate a lot faster and felt like it had way more power.
of course it was on a 3.2 v6.
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plecebo effect....unless he was running the wrong octane to begin with until he started to use a higher octane.
all i know is what i felt and i felt a difference... i know how long it takes me to go through my long *** ls gears and the time between shifts shortened... im not saying i got a million more hp from using 100 octane.. im not even saying i got any extra hp... all im saying is that the car did accelarate faster, and too my that is worth it... granted, im not going to fill up on this stuff evertime... but i think i will make it a once and a while thing...
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yea concept of octane is the resitance to detonation it yeilds...and thats it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Pretty much. However, some of the racing fuels add aromatic hydrocarbons to boost the octane. These components have more bond energy than a standard alkane. So, racing fuel can give a stock motor more power due to the higher energy content. I'm not sure how tetra-ethyl lead falls into the energy spectrum.
A dyno test is in order.
yea concept of octane is the resitance to detonation it yeilds...and thats it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Pretty much. However, some of the racing fuels add aromatic hydrocarbons to boost the octane. These components have more bond energy than a standard alkane. So, racing fuel can give a stock motor more power due to the higher energy content. I'm not sure how tetra-ethyl lead falls into the energy spectrum.
A dyno test is in order.
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Pretty much. However, some of the racing fuels add aromatic hydrocarbons to boost the octane. These components have more bond energy than a standard alkane. So, racing fuel can give a stock motor more power due to the higher energy content. I'm not sure how tetra-ethyl lead falls into the energy spectrum.
A dyno test is in order.
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well yea, thats the not road legal stuff...
i didnt mention those though.
Pretty much. However, some of the racing fuels add aromatic hydrocarbons to boost the octane. These components have more bond energy than a standard alkane. So, racing fuel can give a stock motor more power due to the higher energy content. I'm not sure how tetra-ethyl lead falls into the energy spectrum.
A dyno test is in order.
</TD></TR></TABLE>well yea, thats the not road legal stuff...
i didnt mention those though.
Octane doesnt have a negative effect on the life of O2 sensors or catalytic convertors. Leaded race gas does however, dont get confused as many of you in this forum usually are.
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when will people learn
. Higher octane in no way shap or form gives power without a tune for the engine to utilize the full effects. As stated above higher octane (in the US) is a measure of resitance to pressue and heat before it explodes. When spark is given the heat is overwhelming and all gasolines will begin to burn. Now in knowing this as FACT, you are telling me that this more "stable" substance gives you more power because it resists better against heat and pressure.....HAHAHAHA. If anything lower octane will give you better performance because it will a.) spread the flame faster. b.) burn ore completly because the molecules that are close to burning or not WILL burn.
The placebo effect is a REAL effect if you didn't know. Doctors will give sugar pills to people with back aches and the aches will go away. This is exactly what's going on here, thank god you only wasted a couple dollars.
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Another thing I was going to point out
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Modified by adseguy at 9:53 PM 12/12/2005
when will people learn
. Higher octane in no way shap or form gives power without a tune for the engine to utilize the full effects. As stated above higher octane (in the US) is a measure of resitance to pressue and heat before it explodes. When spark is given the heat is overwhelming and all gasolines will begin to burn. Now in knowing this as FACT, you are telling me that this more "stable" substance gives you more power because it resists better against heat and pressure.....HAHAHAHA. If anything lower octane will give you better performance because it will a.) spread the flame faster. b.) burn ore completly because the molecules that are close to burning or not WILL burn.The placebo effect is a REAL effect if you didn't know. Doctors will give sugar pills to people with back aches and the aches will go away. This is exactly what's going on here, thank god you only wasted a couple dollars.
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Another thing I was going to point out
:sighs again:Modified by adseguy at 9:53 PM 12/12/2005
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BSP-DC2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">02 sensors are a quick fix though</TD></TR></TABLE>
you wanna spend the couple hundred $$$ for the part itself? Quick-fix, expensive part
running that high of octane (unless you have super-high compression or you have a REAL RACE car) is unnecessary
it might give you a couple horses, but at what cost? $5/gallon? Your choice.
you wanna spend the couple hundred $$$ for the part itself? Quick-fix, expensive part
running that high of octane (unless you have super-high compression or you have a REAL RACE car) is unnecessary
it might give you a couple horses, but at what cost? $5/gallon? Your choice.
i think i am going to have to do a dyno run... this way i can see solid proof... no extra tuning... just a 1/4 tank of 100...well to tell you the truth i dont know what rating of gas my ecu is tuned to, i didnt ask any questions, i was just happy with the results. im pretty sure its to 91 though. ill be sure to post a before and after dyno sheet when i get er done.
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