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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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I finally got around to installing the Legend calipors! The problem is that now the brake line end points directly into the axle. I've done a temporary fix to move it out of the way, but I don't really want to take it on track like this. When the tires are in full turn (second pic) there is very little clearance room between the hose and the axle. It just looks like a accendent waiting to happen. What type of brake lines should be used to clear the line away from the axle?

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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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Default Re: Q: Brake lines used with Legend/NSX calipors? (mrlegoman)

looks to me you got the calipers reversed the bleeders are supposed to be on top which in turn would point your lines up
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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Default Re: Q: Brake lines used with Legend/NSX calipors? (cjames235)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cjames235 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looks to me you got the calipers reversed the bleeders are supposed to be on top which in turn would point your lines up</TD></TR></TABLE>



the "L"ettering is upside down......
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 03:42 AM
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Default Re: Q: Brake lines used with Legend/NSX calipors? (mrlegoman)

The clappers are on the wrong side... but if you fix that.... the pistons would be flipped on the rotor.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 04:03 AM
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 04:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The clappers are on the wrong side... but if you fix that.... the pistons would be flipped on the rotor. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You sure? The pistons on the inside now would be on the inside again on the other side, cause he'd flip it over. Or do you mean top and bottom?

By the way Don, how's pedal feel with those?
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 05:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sscguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You sure? The pistons on the inside now would be on the inside again on the other side, cause he'd flip it over. Or do you mean top and bottom?

By the way Don, how's pedal feel with those?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Legend calipers are mounted behind the axle, rather than in front of the axle like Integras. To use Legend calipers on an Integra, they must be swapped left to right or the bleeders would be upside down.

This puts the larger piston in the caliper on the trailing edge of the rotor, whereas on a Legend it is on the leading edge.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 05:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sscguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You sure? The pistons on the inside now would be on the inside again on the other side, cause he'd flip it over. Or do you mean top and bottom?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Top to bottom... the pistons have a different bore dia.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 06:19 AM
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Default Re: Q: Brake lines used with Legend/NSX calipors? (Willard)

i was about to say... those are upside down!
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 06:45 AM
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Ah, ok. So...the solution is to just deal with it, or what?
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The clappers are on the wrong side... but if you fix that.... the pistons would be flipped on the rotor. </TD></TR></TABLE>Damnit Will. Your the one who said to mount them this way. Remember the conversation where you said that to bleed them "you need a block of wood and remove the caliper so the bleeder is on top bla bla bla"?
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sscguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">By the way Don, how's pedal feel with those?</TD></TR></TABLE>Haven't driven them yet, don't know.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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wow, no idea.....Willard must have been or sleep'ie
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The clappers are on the wrong side... but if you fix that.... the pistons would be flipped on the rotor. </TD></TR></TABLE>Damnit Will. Now I'm all messed up.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cjames235 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looks to me you got the calipers reversed the bleeders are supposed to be on top which in turn would point your lines up</TD></TR></TABLE>My understanding was that the smaller piston goes up top. Therefor, the calipers have to be reversed.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrlegoman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My understanding was that the smaller piston goes up top. Therefor, the calipers have to be reversed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea but like stated above for the line and bleeder to get right you have to run them backwards because the legends have the caliper on the rear of the rotor not the front

either way will be ok you just wont be able to bleed them correctly that way....... if you dont want to run them backwards just take the line out of the guides and rotate it to where you want it and tighten it up it will still work fine it will just be outside the guides
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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Default Re: Q: Brake lines used with Legend/NSX calipors? (cjames235)

Don, is there any way to bend that long metal shaft coming off the fitting? It looks like that's there more to direct the line than anything else.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cjames235 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea but like stated above for the line and bleeder to get right you have to run them backwards because the legends have the caliper on the rear of the rotor not the front

either way will be ok you just wont be able to bleed them correctly that way....... if you dont want to run them backwards just take the line out of the guides and rotate it to where you want it and tighten it up it will still work fine it will just be outside the guides</TD></TR></TABLE>My current problem (if you want to call it that) is that on the back straight of VIR I'm now hitting 150+. So I just want to make sure my current setup is the best tht it can be.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sscguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don, is there any way to bend that long metal shaft coming off the fitting? It looks like that's there more to direct the line than anything else.</TD></TR></TABLE>I don't beleive so. It might be possible, but I don't want to risk a stress fracture. Thus the reason for this post! Is there a specific set of brake line that have and arched fitting that would help with my clearance issues?
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 02:17 AM
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You might be able to contact whoever makes the lines for Wilwood. I know they use arched tubes, but the fitting for the Ultralite calipers are different. They may have something available that'd work, or might be able to fab something up.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 07:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrlegoman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damnit Will. Your the one who said to mount them this way. Remember the conversation where you said that to bleed them "you need a block of wood and remove the caliper so the bleeder is on top bla bla bla"? </TD></TR></TABLE>\

Thats the way i'd do it
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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don....i used 99 si goodridge ss lines....

but i put the left on the right and right on left as far as calipers go....

had them both ways and can't tell a difference driving
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">don....i used 99 si goodridge ss lines....

but i put the left on the right and right on left as far as calipers go....

had them both ways and can't tell a difference driving</TD></TR></TABLE>Will give that a shot
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