I have a 99 Prelude BTW......

Ok need some info from audio gurus because I have absolutly no knowledge of audio stuff. I just got a new alpine head unit (6855) and a pair of Alpine 6x9 Type R's for my car. Best buy had a deal where I get a free pair of Dual brand 6.5" speakers for free.

So question is........are the stock prelude 6.5" better or should I put the free Dual 6.5" I just got. Not sure what the specs are for stock but the Dual is 120 watts peak hold. That's all the info I got on these Duals, and yeah I know they are cheap quality stuff but it's free.

So are the stock prelude stuff better because I know some OEM stuff are a lot better like Nissans which has bose speakers.

 

The Duals are free because they're crap speakers. They're good for when you have a blown speaker and you don't want anything much better than what was in there. They're good for when you need to take out your good speakers when you sell the car...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> but the Dual is 120 watts peak hold</TD></TR></TABLE>

BTW... They're speakers... Not injectors...

 

Well for one thing 5th gen preludes don't have 6.5 in speakers, they are 6in.

 

So stay stock or put the crappy Duals in....???

 

They probably won't fit so I would not bother putting crappy speakers like Dual's in. If you are going to make the effort to fit some good speakers in I would get some good ones. I have JL audio 6 in components in my prelude and even those took some work to fit right.

Oh and if best buy gase you those speakers I would take them back and ask for some other ones cause they should know better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integra15 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well for one thing 5th gen preludes don't have 6.5 in speakers, they are 6in. </TD></TR></TABLE>

They're actually 6.5 speakers, not 6. And I drive a 2000 Prelude with upgraded stuff.

And for the Duals, I don't know what these are, but they might be able to handle more power. Try them and see how they sound. It shouldn't take long to snap off the grill, unscrew 3 screws and put a new speaker in.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integra15 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They probably won't fit so I would not bother putting crappy speakers like Dual's in. If you are going to make the effort to fit some good speakers in I would get some good ones. I have JL audio 6 in components in my prelude and even those took some work to fit right.

Oh and if best buy gase you those speakers I would take them back and ask for some other ones cause they should know better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well if they don't fit then I guess I won't waste my time and try. Why wouldn't they fit ??? aren't they the same size 6.5" ??? Sorry for my ignorance.

And Best Buy has a deal going on if you buy a deck for $100 or more then you get free installation and a free pair of 6.5 Dual's. That's the only reason why I'm contemplating......is because it free. Sorry but I got no other choice to pick and choose so it's either these or keep it bone stock.

BTW the only reason why I bought it at this fuggin overprice store is my cousin has employee discount. I got a Alpine CDA-9855 ($450) and a pair of Alpine Type R's ($176) for only $398 totaled. That's not bad for me but not sure where everyone buys there products.

 

I dont mean to argue with anyone but the fronts in the 2001 prelude are 6in not 6.5. Check crutchfield.com if you want to make sure for different years.

That doen't mean you could not find a way to make 6.5's fit with modification, but I personally didn't think it was worth it.

And it seems you got a good deal anyway, I just bought a 9855 for $350 and I thought that was a decent deal.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integra15 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont mean to argue with anyone but the fronts in the 2001 prelude are 6in not 6.5. Check crutchfield.com if you want to make sure for different years. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Went to crutchfield.com and it tells me 5.25

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I think someone modified your car to fit 6 in speakers and that's why you're the first person I see talk about 5th gen ludes having 6 in speakers instead of 6.5 in. I didn't have to modify anything and it fit perfectly. My friend who drives a 2001 Prelude fit 6.5 in speakers no problem. But we're both wrong, 'cause crutchfield said it's 5.25 in. lol.

 

These guys are more educated about car audio...

http://www.mjmautoinnovations.com/honda.htm

 

LOL, Odessa 1 integra15 0

Take my word for it, it's a standard 6.5" speaker, not to be confused with some of todays "oversized" 6.5" speakers.
MNsnowdaboy the Duels are probably about the same as the stock speakers, the stack ones are probably Pioneers so they may even be a little better, but like Odessa said try them, easy install, maybe just install one that way you can A/B the stock one and the Dual at the same time, then let us know which ones sounds better 94

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> maybe just install one that way you can A/B the stock one and the Dual at the same time, then let us know which ones sounds better 94 </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think I'll do what you say and do a test for everyone....well not that much people would care because they'll never buy that dual crap. I guess it's not bad to have as an extra set incase mine get's blown like my 6x9's. Thanks, a lot of helpful info going on here. Yeah when it get's to over 25 degrees here in MN I might try but for now it's freakin cold outside.

 

I would think the Duals might be a little better than a stock speaker, but not by much. You should see if they could just give you a credit for what those speakers are worth (which probably won't be that much) and apply it against a decent pair of speakers. I work at Circuit City and have seen this done numerous times. Think about it, if you do this, you're practically saying you want to spend more money in the store, and we all know that's exactly what they want you to do.

 

^^^Dam wish I would have done that because I already get 40% off all car audio stuff. So 40% plus $30 or so for the Duals = a lot of money saved on a nice pair of 6.5" speakers.

Oh well enough spending money on me for now I gotta get my christmas shopping done.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL, Odessa 1 integra15 0

Take my word for it, it's a standard 6.5" speaker, not to be confused with some of todays "oversized" 6.5" speakers.
MNsnowdaboy the Duels are probably about the same as the stock speakers, the stack ones are probably Pioneers so they may even be a little better, but like Odessa said try them, easy install, maybe just install one that way you can A/B the stock one and the Dual at the same time, then let us know which ones sounds better 94 </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NTPOG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you are looking at a larger 6" or 6.5", you'd better break out the Sawz-All </TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.ntpog.org/mods/fift...shtml

I just measured the size of the oem speaker and it is 6.20in, and it fits into the stock mounting location with zero clearance.


Modified by integra15 at 4:21 PM 12/10/2005

 

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http://www.ntpog.org/mods/fift...shtml

I just measured the size of the oem speaker and it is 6.20in, and it fits into the stock mounting location with zero clearance.


Modified by integra15 at 4:21 PM 12/10/2005</TD></TR></TABLE> Read and lock closer, he is talking about depth of speaker, the second pix, [of the door speaker] shows a standard 6.5" 3 screw mount oem Honda speaker.

You are getting the new "over-sized " 6.5" speakers confused with a standard 6.5" speaker, I can think of no fewer the 4 or 5 brands of speakers that make a 6.5" that is actualy bigger then a standard 6.5" speaker. 94

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Read and lock closer, he is talking about depth of speaker, the second pix, [of the door speaker] shows a standard 6.5" 3 screw mount oem Honda speaker.

You are getting the new "over-sized " 6.5" speakers confused with a standard 6.5" speaker, I can think of no fewer the 4 or 5 brands of speakers that make a 6.5" that is actualy bigger then a standard 6.5" speaker. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well the O.D. hole for the speaker is 6.375in no larger. If you can find a "6.5in" speaker that is smaller than that it would fit. If not it will not. I measured both fo the 6.5 speakers I have at home (MB quart, and Ultimate) and the are both 6.5in. Neither one when I purchased them were advertised as being "oversized".

 

Don't know about Ultimate, but MB does not make a standard 6.5" speaker, and except for their 6x8s no MB is measured in inch's, they are made by a German company and are measured in cm and the closest is a 16cm.

Also it has nothing to do with "OD" of the speaker but the mounting hole diameter of the speaker, and a standard 6.5" speaker has a 5" +/- 1/8" mounting diameter, [depending on brand] the mounting hole for the MB 16cm speaker is 5.61" "over-sized" 94

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't know about Ultimate, but MB does not make a standard 6.5" speaker, and except for their 6x8s no MB is measured in inch's, they are made by a German company and are measured in cm and the closest is a 16cm.

Also it has nothing to do with "OD" of the speaker but the mounting hole diameter of the speaker, and a standard 6.5" speaker has a 5" +/- 1/8" mounting diameter, [depending on brand] the mounting hole for the MB 16cm speaker is 5.61" "over-sized" 94</TD></TR></TABLE>
OK then it is oversized, but most speakers but most 6.5in speakers worth using won't fit due to the depth issues anyway. Oh and ironically a lot of Dual's 6.5's are oversize anyway according to BB's website.


Modified by integra15 at 8:38 PM 12/11/2005

 

You guys lost me there but keep going, I'm learning more just by reading this debate.....

 

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Basically 5th gen preludes may fit "regular" 6.5in speakers, but anything "oversize" (which a good amount of 6.5in speakers are) will not fit.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integra15 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Basically 5th gen preludes may fit "regular" 6.5in speakers, but anything "oversize" (which a good amount of 6.5in speakers are) will not fit.</TD></TR></TABLE> Well kind of
Even most standard 6.5", [ones using a 5" mounting diameter hole] speakers have a depth problem, on most cutting a hole, [for the magnet] in the back of the OEM speaker housing will allow it to fit, or a "depth reducer", [MDF ring] to make up the difference, depending on speaker and car up to 1" can be used, you can also use an MDF adpt. ring on some over-sized speakers, cutting an inside diameter into it that fits the speaker, mounting it to the oem housing, [using same 3 holes that held the stock speaker] and then mounting the speaker to the MDF adpt. This will only work with over-sized speakers that have a mounting diameter hole smaller then the stock speaker mounting screw holes, for obvious reasons.

If you want the best sound out of whatever speaker you install in the stock door locations, then the best thing you can do is replace the plastic speaker housings with custom MDF housings, and I don't just mean two 1" MDF rings screwed together.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Well kind of
Even most standard 6.5", [ones using a 5" mounting diameter hole] speakers have a depth problem, on most cutting a hole, [for the magnet] in the back of the OEM speaker housing will allow it to fit, or a "depth reducer", [MDF ring] to make up the difference, depending on speaker and car up to 1" can be used, you can also use an MDF adpt. ring on some over-sized speakers, cutting an inside diameter into it that fits the speaker, mounting it to the oem housing, [using same 3 holes that held the stock speaker] and then mounting the speaker to the MDF adpt. This will only work with over-sized speakers that have a mounting diameter hole smaller then the stock speaker mounting screw holes, for obvious reasons.

If you want the best sound out of whatever speaker you install in the stock door locations, then the best thing you can do is replace the plastic speaker housings with custom MDF housings, and I don't just mean two 1" MDF rings screwed together. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well instead of speaking general car audio theory I will break it down with some actual 5th gen Prelude measurements.

If one chose to cut out the back of th plastic speaker mounting the deepest speaker that you would be able to top mount is roughly 2.125in. That being said you could add a mounting ring to raise up the speaker, however in the case of the prelude I would recommend not using anything larger than 3/8 to maybe 1/2in before you start to interfere with the stock grill.

But unfortunately you still would not be able to fit oversize 6.5in speakers due to their overall diameter being larger then the slot of the door panel (as pointed out above). Of course you are going to argue that you could by fit one by cutting up the door panel and using a substitute MDF enclosure, but then I think you are going beyond using the "stock" locations aren't you?

 

Okay back to the topic at hand ...

The Dual ( namsung) speakers are better than the typical dual cone speakers that
most auto manufactures install in cars. Will they fit in your car..possibly with a few
mods. Will they sound better than the OEM...Yes. Will they sound Better than the alpine set...not likely. Remeber its You who have to feel good about it.

As for the who speaker debate. Most customers come in wanting to change out the radios because they want a better sound, while keeping the CRAPPY 7 year old OEM speakers because "it still sounds okay". Boy are they let down when it sound like sh%#t and its the radios or installers fault!! People repeat after me: OEM audio systems for the most part SUCK!!! In many cases,if new technology(ie cdr-rw playback) isnt your thing spice up the oem system with 4 new speakers and some type of sub/amp combo. Your ears will thank you.

 

dual is a cheaper brand of speakers, personally i'd stick with the stock pioneer speakers instead of duals. But you should look into higher quality companies if you want good sound.