I'm just curious if lowering your car actually improves acceleration in a staright line? I want to know because whenever I shift, my *** always dips down before it takes off again. And I have a friend with a lowered car and when he shifts, it sits firm on the ground and just launches forward.

 

From my expierence, it seems that the car does drive smoother on the interstate and at high speeds. its seems there is less drag becasue the car is lower to the ground so less air goes underneath the car

 

i have definatly thought about this theory, about the reduction of weight transfer helping acceleration. i think if it does help, it is not noticable time wise, but it is beneifitial is FEEL wise. the car feels for solid, when weight transfer is reduced.

 

Preventing all the weight from transferring to the back will improve the accleration by providing more traction.

 

i agree, it is a probably a feel thing. my gsr is on stock suspension and that bastard rocks all over the place when i am driving, esp when i shift and brake. i have neuspeed springs on my ls and it does not do this at all. it feels firmer all around. this problem will be solved in the next couple of weeks when i install my new suspension setup in the gsr. oh yeah!

 

hmm kidna along with this topic but just wondering ....engine dampes or whatever there called arent they along the same lines as this keepin your engine form popping back???? jsut wondering...

 

a gurdel? or however you spell it you mean?

 

lowering your car can increase acceleration more inthe corners than it does in a straigh line...

when we lower our cars(we affect the geometry of the suspension by missing up toe but giving a whole lot of neg camber.) that camber is helpful around the corners.

** to sum it up.. more camber=more grip in corners--> more throtle=more accelration...

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assuming proper tires, conditions, etc.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsrious &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lowering your car can increase acceleration more inthe corners than it does in a straigh line...

when we lower our cars(we affect the geometry of the suspension by missing up toe but giving a whole lot of neg camber.) that camber is helpful around the corners.

** to sum it up.. more camber=more grip in corners--&gt; more throtle=more accelration...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
assuming proper tires, conditions, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's a lot more than just negative camber that's helping when lowering a car. As for screwing up the toe, that's why you're supposed to get an alignment after adjusting your suspension.

Camber is just a beneficial side factor, the reason for lowering your car is to get a lower center of gravity which makes the car handle better. It's not the camber, sure that helps but the car actually sitting lower is what does it. It also creates less body roll. You can have a camber kit and set ur camber to stock specs and your still going to handle better. So your theory is flawed my good sir.

But yes you will be able to take corners faster because of less body roll, more grip etc etc.

 

i know of guys who are lowered 1" and handle much better than others who are lowered 2" ............ it's not in how much you lower it but what's behind the parts used to lower it.

e.g. proper shocks, spring rates, tires.. etc. etc..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nuck Chorris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know of guys who are lowered 1" and handle much better than others who are lowered 2" ............ it's not in how much you lower it but what's behind the parts used to lower it.

e.g. proper shocks, spring rates, tires.. etc. etc..</TD></TR></TABLE>

We could go back and forth all day. There isn't one thing that will make the car the best. Everything you said and then of course the driver. And then theres the addition of strut and sway bars. I was just stating that the better handling is not just from the negative camber as gsrious made it out to seem.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLacK FirE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We could go back and forth all day. There isn't one thing that will make the car the best. Everything you said and then of course the driver. And then theres the addition of strut and sway bars. I was just stating that the better handling is not just from the negative camber as gsrious made it out to seem.</TD></TR></TABLE>

it wasn't directed towards you, but rather the other sadly mis-informed users who think lower is always better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nuck Chorris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know of guys who are lowered 1" and handle much better than others who are lowered 2" ............ it's not in how much you lower it but what's behind the parts used to lower it.

e.g. proper shocks, spring rates, tires.. etc. etc..</TD></TR></TABLE>oh my gosh... i can't believe someone responded to my lil statement thinking i didn't know any better.

i was just speaking out of my *** in the post i made above. duh... you're supposed to get an aligment.

ok folks... do it correctly.
*drop your car... blah blah blah--&gt;just do it the right way. camber kits are a must if you want to set you camber to a certain amount of degree. while you are at the alignment shop have them adjust you toe and camber to your specs if you want. you can adjust caster too if you have a raduis rod(trac.bar). wider tires and rims would help with the contach patch... the right tires are a must for a certain type of driving conditions. now we move on to suspension components... spring rates, good dampers(struts), and sway bars... all add up to the mix.

im not going to even go into details but you guys get the point on making a car handle better and acclerating faster...

 

if you get good suspension it will help you launch better due to the cars tendence to dip in the rear which will take the weight off the front which causes it to spin. stiff spring rates in the rear the car will hook up better. hope that anwser your question

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beavis@tsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you get good suspension it will help you launch better due to the cars tendence to dip in the rear which will take the weight off the front which causes it to spin. stiff spring rates in the rear the car will hook up better. hope that anwser your question</TD></TR></TABLE>yes, if you have the right suspension components and correctly set them up...you can launch better.

 

get some adjustable shocks agx are decent and not to expensive, that will stop the car from the front dipping.... as far as improving acceleration no way it really doesnt at all. you want better accelertation get a bigger tb and IM

 

It really messes up the toe and camber. I did alignment on my car last night (did it myself, since I work at a shop). The car is lowered about 2 inches, and the fromt camber was -2.7, and the toe was off by a degree or two, but definitely way in the red. The rear toe was off just a little, but I shimmed the rear upper control arm, and the camber was dead on ***** accurate. But anyway, it's straight now except for the negative camber in the front. Ingalls kit is coming soon, along with some new wheels and tires.

 

Straight line acceleration should improve marginally because although the wheels are cambered out more, there is less drag and less force pushing your car off the road because less air is getting under your car. Also, if you have a cold air intake it might also help it by getting it even cooler air. Everything depends on if you actually lower it the right way (with new equipment) or if you took a blowtorch to your springs . Im not talking big gains though, chances are you wouldnt notice after your brain gets adjusted to the new height of your car. What I mean by that is, when you lower your car your suspension gets harder, and more feel gets translated into the steering, plus its lower, and the lower someone gets the faster it looks, so the first couple of times you take the car out it will feel faster, but in reality its just your brain playing a trick on you.

 

an engine damper has nothing to do with suspension, all it does is restrict engine movement on the mounts so more power is put to the ground and not wasted rocking the motor back and fourth.

 

yeha i kno it has nothing to do with suspension nerver said it did.. i was jsut wondering...cuz it was kinda along the same lines ...iguess well now that i think about it not really but my bad i was just wondering...but yeha i have a friend who lowers his car like a mo fo and it handles awesoem and i ridden in a car that was just lowered a lil bit and it handled aweome as well and lower your car to extream isn't really nessary for daily driving kinda pointless to lower your car like 3-4-5 inches in my opinion....that jsut to low and you'll bottem out every where...