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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:12 AM
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Hi,

I was planning on taking the Tein Flex but I heard it gives a pretty smooth ride. The car is driven daily and I'm planning to often go on track week ends next year.

Tein Flex are 9kgf(mm) front and 4kgf(mm) rear.
Tein RA are 14kgf(mm) front and 10kgf(mm) rear.
Tein RE are 14kgf(mm) front and 10kgf(mm) rear.

The setup that would probably suit me is 11kgf(mm) front and 6kgf(mm) rear.

I tried a teg with HA and 10kgf(mm) front and 8kgf(mm) rear and it was ok not too hard..

Does anyone have a solution? Does somebody have the RE or RA and what do you think about it?

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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:13 AM
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tein flex are more of a street coilover but there's no reason you couldn't track them

tein RA's are aluminum bodied (not ideal for street), single adjustable (ride height affects preload of springs), entry level race setup

tein RE's are discontinued
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:28 AM
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Come on, I know you of all people could source out some RE's
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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I have the RA's the spring rates are quite absurd for street driving if you don't live by smooth roads, I opted for some porsche springs laying around we use to run with the gt3rs, they fit and I'm a lot happier with them.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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I have Ha's, i need to stiffen them up a bit then ill love them...you may have to look on ebay for the RE's
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tein RA's are aluminum bodied (not ideal for street)
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why aluminum is it not ideal for street?

So tein RE's would be would be great for me right? are they in aluminum?

Yeah that's not good for me if my dealer cannot source them because I'm in Switzerland and we need papers for it to be street legal..

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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by s-type &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
why aluminum is it not ideal for street?

So tein RE's would be would be great for me right? are they in aluminum?

Yeah that's not good for me if my dealer cannot source them because I'm in Switzerland and we need papers for it to be street legal..</TD></TR></TABLE>

aluminum is a soft metal, if switzerland has beautifully paved roads than you're golden
i live in NYC so chromoly steel is more preferable

tein RE's are aluminum, they are double adjustable (ride height is independent of spring preload) but heres the only downside, they have been DISCONTINUED for over 6 months already
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

aluminum is a soft metal, if switzerland has beautifully paved roads than you're golden
i live in NYC so chromoly steel is more preferable

tein RE's are aluminum, they are double adjustable (ride height is independent of spring preload) but heres the only downside, they have been DISCONTINUED for over 6 months already</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow so you mean they could bend themselves after going throught a hole in the street or so?

Yep I understood discontinued well I'll check with my dealer as they order them from england maybe they'll have some stock left..

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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by s-type &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow so you mean they could bend themselves after going throught a hole in the street or so?

Yep I understood discontinued well I'll check with my dealer as they order them from england maybe they'll have some stock left..

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you may encounter a hole in the street where it'll bend both kinds metals...its just that aluminum is much easier to bend than chromoly steel

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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 08:16 AM
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You can get custom rates with the Flex setup if you want. They'll probably need to be revalved to the appropriate specs. Give me a call at 803-396-3800 and I'll see what I can put together.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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Take a look at PIC too unless you are totaly set on TEIN.

Most of the stuff from JDM land is wacky. Had a set of "custom" JIC's and it turned out they were the same ones you can buy off the shelf. PIC dyno's all there shocks so you know exactly what you are getting.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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glad i got my re before the closepout
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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I have RA's on my Supra (a much heavier car)and I've never had issues with bending anything on the street. lol.

The manufacturer designs the part to take into account the strength of the material.

Get the RE's or Flex -- the additional adjustment is important.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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Why not Konis and GCs?
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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Depends if you want preload as part of the height adjustment, which will increase the harshness of the ride due to the nature of the spring compression.

Personally, I'd recommend a coilover with height adjustment independant of preload for that exact reason.

HTH.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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TEIN Flex work the best on the DC2 Chassis. I rode them full hard 16 front and rear, didn't adjust the preload from the Factory. They were really fukken stiff on the street. Awesome!!!!!!!!!. Best coilovers IMO. Oh, I also had the Pillowball upper mounts front and rear. Get these you'll love them.

Handling was superb. Very neutral, 4 wheel slides. Azenis on front with Khmos on
the rear. Lowered aBOUT 2.5 IN .25 IN RAKE. Tons of camber. Hope that helps you decide.

Oh, and you can always go up 2 spring rates with out having to revalve them. SO you would be able to get the 11f 6r you're looking for.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 04:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jetydosa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why not Konis and GCs?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well actually it's not as simple because Konis GC's and JIC's or else is not road legal the only brands we can have legal papers for are HR / D2 / Tein / Bilstein from what I know..

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You can get custom rates with the Flex setup if you want. They'll probably need to be revalved to the appropriate specs. Give me a call at 803-396-3800 and I'll see what I can put together.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I can only buy Tein's throught my local dealer otherwise I won't be able to get the legal documents for them to be road legal. Does Tein do cutom rates on Flex with same prices..?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you may encounter a hole in the street where it'll bend both kinds metals...its just that aluminum is much easier to bend than chromoly steel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Then what would you recommend? Flex?
Are the Flex double adjustable? (ride height is independent of spring preload)

tks

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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 04:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by You_Get_Vapors &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">TEIN Flex work the best on the DC2 Chassis. I rode them full hard 16 front and rear, didn't adjust the preload from the Factory. They were really fukken stiff on the street. Awesome!!!!!!!!!. Best coilovers IMO. Oh, I also had the Pillowball upper mounts front and rear. Get these you'll love them.

Handling was superb. Very neutral, 4 wheel slides. Azenis on front with Khmos on
the rear. Lowered aBOUT 2.5 IN .25 IN RAKE. Tons of camber. Hope that helps you decide.

Oh, and you can always go up 2 spring rates with out having to revalve them. SO you would be able to get the 11f 6r you're looking for.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How much faster were your lap times with the Flex coilovers?
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 05:48 AM
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Were you saying they handle the best on the track or the street?
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 06:20 AM
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How much faster were your lap times with the Flex coilovers?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I dunno I never tracked the car, unless the street counts as a track. LOL

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM Factor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Were you saying they handle the best on the track or the street? </TD></TR></TABLE>

They would be excellent for both situations. I mainly used them on the street.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 06:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by You_Get_Vapors &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dunno I never tracked the car, unless the street counts as a track. LOL</TD></TR></TABLE>



Then you're simply talking out of your ***.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by You_Get_Vapors &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They would be excellent for both situations. I mainly used them on the street.</TD></TR></TABLE>



How can you say they would be excellent on the track when you've never driven on a track before?

If you want to post useless drivel, please do it elsewhere.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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what would justify one to spend the extra money for flex's over some d2's?
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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Not trying to rip on ya, but street and track driving is completely different. I've heard of lots of people having good results with the flex coils. However, once you start taking the car to the track, you'll know why stiffer spring rates is the way to go. Depending on track surface, the stiffer the spring rates, the better you'll be able to rotate the car.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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A bit OT here but man that's not the first time u heard/seen ppl running race setups on streets and all that.

I know a kid personally, who runs 22k/20k and leave the shocks in full softtttttt . Find it pretty funny when I ask him why coz he said "It feels g00t mangggg"..."But how did u know it's s00 g00t?" Topic changed all of a sudden.

I would suggest TEIN FLEX with 9k/6k(4k is just like some H&R sports???) springs if u don't track your car that oftenn (lapping/autocross) s-type. TEIN RA/RE/RS/N1/etc etc are kinda a waste if you don't even track your car at all/that often. Unless it's some sorta bling factor that u wanna go for.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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I have been using my Tein RS's in Long Island and NYC for a year and a half and the bad roads and stiff spring rates(14F, 12R) has worn out my shocks.
If I were to do it again I would definitely go with something much softer, like Mugen Lowdown if it was mainly for the street.
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