http://video.google.com/videop...ype+R

found it on google.

sorry if it's a repost

I'm not sure why this guy pumps his brakes though...?


Modified by Big Phat R at 11:28 AM 12/7/2005

 

Here's another one from Denmark with a Rotrex supercharged Type R at NURBURGRING

http://video.google.com/videop...ype+R




Modified by Big Phat R at 3:39 PM 12/7/2005

 

And here's a Motegi Battle with an NSX Type R, M3 CSL,Porsche 911 TT ,Modena 360 ,Gallardo,Murcielago

http://video.google.com/videop...lardo

Lots of interesting vids on google...

 

Nice. I'll have to check them out.

 

Watching them right now.

 

Pumping brakes to ensure they are working before a braking zone? My guess without watching.

 

seen the rest except the first one.

i have no idea why he pumps his brakes but i have one guess..

he might "think" that the brakes works better @ alot of pad pressure ? trying to build up the pressure in system?

 

Nice videos...

 

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Maybe he boiled his fluid in a previous session and hasn't had a chance to bleed it... ?

 

nice vids...
that SC R... wow...

 

first off thats not proper heel/toe

i pump my brakes once or twice especially on long straitways to make sure

1) i still have brakes

2) build up alittle heat after being cooled so long on a straitaway

3) to build up alittle pressure and pedal feel

 

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i pump my brakes once or twice especially on long straitways to make sure

1) i still have brakes

2) build up alittle heat after being cooled so long on a straitaway

3) to build up alittle pressure and pedal feel </TD></TR></TABLE>

I've read somewhere that people did this for "pedal feel". Mostly because of possible pad "knock" during hard cornering where the bearings will give way a tad regardless of how new it is and let the pad/caliper move a bit away from the rotor.

Edit - Just saw the video. I thought he was left foot braking the pedal lightly. The pedal pushing in the video was just plain weird.

 

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How do you figure that?

 

Everyone thinks they know "the right way" to do it. It's just the matter of preference, turning your foot one way or another, if you blip the throttle while still on the brake it's considered heel/toe. With most street cars you don't really have to turn your heel completely sideways to blip, the pedals are so big you can just evenly put your foot over both pedals. Plus in this case, this guys wearing mongo huge shoes which is so easy to do it with.

 

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How do you figure that? </TD></TR></TABLE>

What does it say..."heel/toe" downshifting correct??? Or did it say "toe/toe" downshifting? lol

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very true...just not the way I do it

i learned from watching jdm best motoring videos y0!

 

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What does it say..."heel/toe" downshifting correct??? Or did it say "toe/toe" downshifting? lol

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What you do depends on:

1) the width and spacing of your pedals
2) the width of your shoes/feet

heel/toe is a generic term - I don't think it means you have to use your "heel" to do it properly.

I use the outside edge of my right foot for throttle blipping

 

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You're going to argue that it's not "correct" based on nomenclature?

I wear size 13 shoes and I am 6'6". I can't twist my leg like that to drive like a 5'6" Keiichi Tsuchiya.

There is no "wrong way" to heel/toe or rev match as long as it's effective. Please stop spreading misinformation.
-Chris

 

Thanks for the vids.

 

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I wear size 13 shoes and I am 6'6". I can't twist my leg like that to drive like a 5'6" Keiichi Tsuchiya.


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The only reason Keiichi has to twist his ankle in such a degree is because he wears size like 38's lol I'm a 44 but wear a 42 just so I have better feel. You have a lot more control when you brake a car with your heel/toe. You can get away with just using your foot evenly on the gas/brake on street driving because your not using the brakes as hard, once you get heat in them the pedal sinks down a bit making it hard to do that, which causes you to get gas/brake at the same time and that's never good. But again it's alllllllllllllllllllll preference. It's weird talking about heel/toe in the R I haven't driven it since I've been in the Formulas where all you do is left foot brake.

 

Good videso...

 

awesome videos... especially the last one... motegi battle!

 

My heel toe.....

toe on brakes, rotate foot and blip gas. At first I couldn't control my foot enough to brake exactly how I wanted to, but now I can.

 

After driving a Corrado VR6 for a while, not only do the electronics suck (another story) but the footwell is extremely cramped so even if you wanted to do the "proper" heal-toe dance you couldn't and I wear a modest 9.5-10 in Nikes....

However you heal-toe is better than no heal-toe like the 2nd vid.... impressive speed and car control....but I just can't stand the horrible noise at downshift....

RagingAngel ...downshifting ****.... "NO SYNCROS for jOo!!"

 

errr while we are on subject of heel-toeing and downshifting...

i did not watch the vids but generally when you are going into a corner do you brake first then proceed to heel-toeing to downshift...or do you press the clutch in first before hitting the brakes? over past few weeks i have read and seen both... my main reference is the best motoring Type R video...some races the driver hits the clutch first...other scenes driver brakes first

just quick question really...been bugging me

 

Unless I'm totally outta my mind....the only time I can see hitting the clutch first for a "heal-toe" is when you are just making a downshift....which I would just term as a rev-match. But that action you're describing may just boil down to user preference as it's basically all a simultaneous motion.

heal-toe should always be done with hitting the brakes first, then clutch and moving the shifter at the same time.

track ***** feel free to correct me....