sync every body is bitching about the rules is there any input from the comp 4 guys. I really don't mind the rules the way they are but i wouldn't mind seeing a min weight. Maybe like 1900lb min with a 25 pounds per 0.2 liters added so a 1.6 can way 1900lb 2.6 way 2050lb or some thing along those lines. I know its a pain in the *** for nopi to way all these cars but that's racing if the rules stay the same that's cool. Just wondering what every body has to say oh ya all k motor cars have to weigh 2500

 

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Stirring up the pot, huh Matt?

 

Yes I believe their needs to be a weight vs displacement rule

 

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Stirring up the pot, huh Matt? </TD></TR></TABLE>not really but a b cant touch a k its just the facts i really dont care what they do it is what it is but a 2.6ltr k in a 1900 pound car is going to kick *** in the right hands

 

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woulndt say cant....has been done. minimum weights sounds good

 

im talking pound for pound with the right people building them

 

i understand, but people seem to hear the letter "K" and seems to throw in the towel....

 

Weight per displacement is dangerous. I don't think you can make a 2.0L b hang with a 2.0L k.

 

unless u assign a specific lb per cc for k series

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CDR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Weight per displacement is dangerous. I don't think you can make a 2.0L b hang with a 2.0L k.</TD></TR></TABLE>better than 2.0l 2100lb b against a 2.0l 1950lb k its not going to be fair any way you look at it im not to worried but allot of people are its not fair to the k people to weigh more than the b cars not every body has the r/d like loan (sorry not trying to point you out) so not every body will make big power with the k just a few

 

Correct and I would have no problem in that. Personally, I would like to see them make b-series lighter and not us k-series guys heavier. I understand if you put a little weight on us but you don't have to put a lot. I think that making a car lighter will make it go much faster then putting a lot of weight on us. I don't think that adding weight to my car will slow it down all that much but I know taking weight off most of the Civics that I raced this year would help them out a ton.

 

sounds great maybe more will try and compete like the b16's different makes and bodied styles.

 

Okay this is what I think. You have to look at the sport. Alot of cars these days are 2600lb+ from the factory not like the good ole days where a stock car from the dealer can be 2200lbs. The sport needs to grow, but having a weight limit that is so low, it's gonna scare all the new kids that are getting into the sport, away.
The new kids are going to be the pro drivers in the years to come. And sponsors look for new type of cars. And plus it's only fair, there are some cars out there in the 1800-1900lbs weight range. I say around 2200-2300lbs. That's the half way point from the old cars to the new.

 

how light can you get loans car norris how about you Chris realistically. I don't mind the weight but my car weighs right at 2000 with me in comp4 trim witch i think you can get the new cars close to that weight i might be wrong. There has to be a weight by displacement or none at all and the k needs to be a little heavier there will be people bitching because they cant keep up no mater what 1800lbs or 2500lbs i honestly don't want to add alot of weight to my car it feels slow know and i would hate to go slower

 

I agree with Norris that newer cars have to be thought of when making up weights for classes.

Mine is 2400lbs with me in it and I have to do a lot of work to get it there. I am going to be doing even more work to try and get it lighter but it is going to be tough. The RSX is a really heavy chassis to start with.

 

2250 minimum weight for all k series powered vehicles.....

all other engines no minimum required.....

that would be my rule

 

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all other engines no minimum required.....

that would be my rule</TD></TR></TABLE>not fair

 

The way I see it, if you go 2300+ like Norris says than you leave out the older cars and if you go 1900-2000 your leaving out the Newer cars. Im not sure if anyone noticed but watching NHRA Street Stock class is about as fun as watching Flies get it on or watching the "Fast" bracket racers.

 

b4 long the sportsman classes are gonna be more technical than the pro classes. Did you guys know that a b series kicked everyons *** last year in comp4? THere were fast K motors in the class also. Look at Loans car is was really fast and that other girl in the red hatch should go fast.

 

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Our car can probably get only another 50lbs if that. If you look at street stock it's 2350lbs. Displacement rule...the tech people already have the tech lines backed up, imagine if they had street cars too. Tech would never get done.
What's the average weight for the class now 2050-2200?

 

I would love to see a min. weight rule. It's hard for me to compete in a 2300 lb integra and I don't want to jump on the bandwagon and buy a CRX or EG.

Some of these guys weigh less than 2K lbs........

 

 

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Some of these guys weigh less than 2K lbs........

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exacly, the class scares racers away especially if they can't get the wait down. With a weight limit I see RSX,integra and the new civics run.

 

I would run at a few events for sure if I knew it was close to a level playing field. Right now I don't think that it is.

 

word is there may not be a comp4 next year.