Whats up all. I've been planning to do a nice turbo build with my prelude; however, with recent inspirations, i've changed my mind.
I've decided to do a simple n/a build - nothing too crazy. Here is my proposed setup - anything can be changed at this moment. Give some feedback.

Skunk2 Stage 2 cams or pro2(can't really find prices)
skunk2 68mm throttle body
skunk2 pro series intake manifold
skunk2 cam gears
KMS valvetrain
mahle gold series 11.5:1 c/r pistons
Eagle H Beam Rods
Hondata Intake manifold gasket
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Don't ask about all of the skunk2 products - I just have a skun2k fetish - and no its not a bandwagon thing. I've chosen not to use their valvetrain products because KMS' valvetrain looks more promissing.

Its a simple setup. No head work. No boring. Nothing. Just a simple "bolt-on" setup. I do understand I will not get the kind of gains I should be getting - but this is just a car to mess around with. I'm buying an 04 or 05 STi next year - so i'm not trying to spend too much money

I have a Hondata s300 that I will be using for tuning.

My new purpose is just to have a nice honda with some kick. Just a toy. I've looked and compared dynos; however, of course no one has this same "exact" setup. I'm trying to figure out if I could potentially reach over 200whp with this setup. I'm pretty sure torque will not be as great.

Note: I might also have to bore out the block .25 because I'm not sure about the condition of my cylinders.

Let me know what I can expect. I could be convinced to do some headwork - but not really trying to spend the time on this motor. Let me know what I can expect. I'm going to have Joe Demaree tune my vehicle.

Edit: Forgot to mention that i'm using a 6puck ceramic clutch along with a fidanza flywheel. Installed two months ago - probably have less than 300 miles.


Modified by TheKINGPin at 6:31 PM 12/4/2005

 

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Good setup the only thing i would change is the cams to jun if not them then crower

 

Crowers are weak. And JUN is too expensive.

The Skunk2 stageIIs are very agressive - but if i have to, i'll go with pro 3s

 

who said crower was weak? To many people make 200+ whp on these and there cheap in price.

 

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waste of money, euro r will beat it out any day

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kms is crap....go with RM valvetrain....

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get I beam rods, H beam are heavy, and unnecessary, I beams will be lighter and plenty strong...

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i would go with rmf on that one in light of recent developments....(lol randy)....cant beat it, and its $400 less....

if i were you i would be shooting for more like 230whp with that much money spent....my car made 200+whp and i havent gone inside the motor yet....

 

Thanks man. I'll definately take everything you've said into consideration. You've proven to me that you know your ****. I'll look into everything more.

The reason I said H Beams is because I already have them from the turbo setup I was putting together. They're in great shape - so i figured I'd keep them.

 

Why do you feel the euro r im is better? arent there dynos on this site showing the power that skunk made over the euro r

 

Actually - i've never seen dynos of the euro - but i'm sure they're here. The dynos of the Skunk2 i've seen were absolutely horrible.

They came out with the pro series manifold a little bit ago - but i guess those suck also.

 

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if there is a dyno, i would love to see it....but every other indication has shown that the euro r is better....

 

This guy used the skunk intake manifold and used the crower stg 2 cams like i said and made 210+ to the wheels scroll down alittle to see the modshttps://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1344440

 

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that says nothing for that manifold....back to back comparison is the only way to do it....

 

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your right, 215 on a stock longblock with Crower 3's is terrible

 

i'm surprised no one else jumped in on the KMS valvetrain idea. i dont know where u got the idea the it was "promising".... have u searched the all-motor forum at all about that crap? i thought about there stuff too till i saw a post floating around 2 weeks ago

 

From the people i've asked - they worked pretty good. No complaints.............but i'm not using them anymore.

Anyway, the crowers are weak. In; 263 Ex; 255 on stage 3 cams..................so boo boo - they are damn equal to the skunk2 stage 2 camshafts.............

i'd rather get the skunk2 stage3 cams with an even MORE agressive profile.........which i'm willing to pay for and handle. I just don't like the crowers for the price.

 

Stage 3 Skunks? Never heard of them........

The crowers are cheaper, is that a bad thing?

 

lol yeah rly....i believe hes talking about the old cores' affinity for breaking....

edit: i think i saw something about a skunk3 for the h, but never saw it for sale...

 

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eh, that's the old ****. Doesn't seem to be a problem anymore.

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I heard they were going to rename the stage 2 spec's to 3's but that's just what I *heard*