My D16a is dead, I finally had a chance to check it out, and the motor is comfirmed dead!( no compression in two of the cylinders).

I bought this 88'CRX Si in 96' in mint condition, I added the typical bolt ons -Intake, DC Headers, straight pipe & HKS exhaust. Man, that car ran good w/ so little done...it did a 15.6 @ 87mph at pomona. Well, I ended up needing a bigger car w/ more seats and at the time my sister needed a car period. So I gave it to her on the condition that when she bought a diffrent car, she would have to return it to me. She bought a new car about 1-1/2years ago because the CRX died. It's been sitting at my parents house waiting for me to revive her. I finally need a second car so it's time to get this thing going again.

The condition my sister left it in is not great....women can't take care of cars for ****! No dents, No rust, but the paint is fading...the interior is filthy and the seats torn to hell. I want to bring her back to her old glory days, first things first, I've got to get this thing running!

My dilema and my starting budget:

This will be my daily driver - 3 days out of the week - (I want to save miles on both of my cars) it will also be a weekend canyon carver/track day **** and, I want to stay all motor.
So-
Swap out the motor for a Sohc stock replacement from Hmotors and do Headwork,cams and other stuff.
Swap out for a b series motor.(because that is all my budget will proabably afford)

My budget is only $2000.00
Maybe I should save a little longer...but, I can't stand to see her sit any longer!

The only pic I have, I'll get more this weekend:

 

i have a d16a6 for sale if you want it for like 100 i have a zc with 45k miles app, if you want it?

 

go b-series man much more fun

 

i don't think b-series in a crx can really be done on $2000 by the time you buy mounts (couple hundred right there) and all the little things needed to get it running. you know you always run into something that you will need to replace/ fix in order for it to run. if you go d-series, no need for mounts, and more money to replace wear items like timing belt, clutch, water pump, etc. leaving you with practically a new engine. i had a B16 in my del sol and now i'm putting a D16Z6 in my 90 civic if that tells you anything. plus, you can use the intake and header you already have on a new d-series.

 

What can I do for $2000.00(or cheaper) on a rebuilt d16a?

All motor, of course.

I can just pull the stock motor out and do a complete rebuild w/a few tweaks here and there. Maybe, a motor that can put down 130hp...that would be a ton of fun - this is not going to be a drag car...just a peppy canyon carver!

 

Just drive to hmotorsonline.com and pick yourself up a sohc non-vtec ZC for $390 and call it a day. Or if you want to go through the trouble with a little more cash you get get yourself a D15B or SOHC ZC Vtec and convert to OBD1 and save your cash.

 

Either the D15B or SOHC ZC Vtec should put down close to 130hp, in this case go for a sohc vtec.

 

My budget for my project car is $2k and I am going to be under that.

I am putting a d16z6 into a 90 hatchback. I rebuilt the engine from the ground up, everything is new so I'm hoping that it lasts for 100k+.

You could rebuild and drop in a d16a6 for WAY cheaper than even the d16z6 because you could stay OBD0. I'm converting the car to OBD1 so that increased the price a bit, but still much cheaper than a b-series swap.

 

i vote d16a6

that's what i'm sticking with

can pop these all day long and pickup another motor cheap

30+mpg can't be beat and will provide plenty of fun on the track/autocross

 

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That's another thing to consider. If you are going to be doing a lot of autocross and want to stay within the stock class you can't have an "engine swap", so you must stick with the d16a6.

Just something to think about. If you are serious about racing check the rules and target a certain class before you decide on an engine setup.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DelSolDon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i don't think b-series in a crx can really be done on $2000 by the time you buy mounts (couple hundred right there) and all the little things needed to get it running. you know you always run into something that you will need to replace/ fix in order for it to run. if you go d-series, no need for mounts, and more money to replace wear items like timing belt, clutch, water pump, etc. leaving you with practically a new engine. i had a B16 in my del sol and now i'm putting a D16Z6 in my 90 civic if that tells you anything. plus, you can use the intake and header you already have on a new d-series.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I did a oem rebuilt LS with hasport mounts for 1900 so yeah you can do it. It was a bit easier for me since i stuck obd0 and alreasy had a SI so i didnt need to hack the harness.

 

but yeah stick d series. easiest way. Was just stating if you really wanted to do it under 2000 you could. Okay cya

 

No racing rules for me...just an occasional track day or early sunday morning drive thru the twisties!

I'm thinking I might just get the ZC sohc for $390 install it and w/ time rebuild the stock d16a6 w/ a budget higher comp. build.

What is the prefered reciepe for this type of motor build?

 

I say rebuild the A6. Use some P29 (D16A1) or PM7 (JDM ZC) pistons in it with a thin Y8 head gasket. Should be looking at around 12:1 compression ratio. Should be a nice and peppy daily driver.

 

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I'm thinking I might just get the ZC sohc for $390 install it and w/ time rebuild the stock d16a6 w/ a budget higher comp. build.

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I would just go ahead and build the A6. For the money spent on the ZC you could rebuild the A6 and have a "new" motor.

 

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I say rebuild the A6. Use some P29 (D16A1) or PM7 (JDM ZC) pistons in it with a thin Y8 head gasket. Should be looking at around 12:1 compression ratio. Should be a nice and peppy daily driver.QUOTE]

Could I run that high of a compresion ratio on the 91 octane **** water we get here in Cali?
Where do I purchase these pistons...and how much do they run?

Sorry, I'm such a newbie to hondas...before the Crx, I had a built FC (turbo rotary)
I bought the Crx to get the reliability the Mazda didn't have. And I only did mild stuff to it, before I got out of the whole scene. But, cars are a part of my life and, here I am again, ready to wrench and learn!

Pic of my current car (sorry it's not a Honda):


a little stretch:

 

If you want to do an NA d16a6 build check this out:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=401854

Also, Abaz on homemadeturbo.com did an a6 build he calls "the wheeze" or something like that.

Both are excellent NA builds.

 

I had my B16 swap done for $2300 including hasport mounts, linkage and labor. But you would be better off doing a D series if your on a budget, parts are alot cheaper.

 

b series into ef cant be done for under 2000 unless you half *** everything and get hook ups! go single cam vtec or build the a6

 

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You could do a non-VTEC B20Z swap into an ED/EF forabout $2000 (or maybe even a little less) if you do it yourself. Non-VTEC may not sound too good. But a non-VTEC B20Z will kick out similar HP to a B16A with MUCH more torque than ANYTHING that will drop into your car without a welder. If you do this swap, you will NEVER wish you had a D again!

I should add that an LS swap could be done for less (possibly ALOT less ) than a B20Z swap. Of course, it won't be as strong. But it will still be better than ANY D-series motor.

 

i bought my a6 motor/tranny and turbo'd it for well under 2000. cant go wrong there

 

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Unless reliability and/or emissions legality are important.

 

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Let's not get into that debate.

But, I had a turbo d-series that was extreemely reliable and I passed emissions with flying colors without changing anything. I had the boost at 10-12 psi on a stock engine for a year with zero problems, and I beat on it daily and took it to the track almost every Friday night.

Anyways.

 

Anybody w/ experience want to help me out swapping in a stock ZC single cam?

Will this take a weekend or a day? I used to swap my rotary in hours, but this is diffrent...how long should this take?

Oh, yea...will this pass emisions? I had the car registered un-operational, so I'm sure that I will have to smog it to get it on the road again.

 

I just found this in the local classifieds....is it a good deal or not?
Of course, I will have to negotiate the price a good deal.

B20B engine conver kit:B20B Block, P3-4head,S1 Tranny,MadEng.Mts.Wiring Harness, perform clutch. Perfect fit for 88-91 Civic Hatch/CRX. Will email pic $2,500