which of these two motors will better help me keep up with my friend b18 non vtec or dohc zc he has a b20 with a gsr vtec head

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ls_4dr_civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">which of these two motors will better help me keep up with my friend b18 non vtec or dohc zc</TD></TR></TABLE>

We don't even know what your friend has, are we supposed to be psychic?

 

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We don't even know what your friend has, are we supposed to be psychic? </TD></TR></TABLE>

i was thinking the same thing

we must be psychic

 

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well he does say that his friend has a b20/vtec....

 

its a b20 with a gsr vtec head

 

umm with those motors you're not going to keep up with him. unless he sucks at driving and you're really good

 

what would my 4 door run in the 1/4 mile with just the ls swap non vtec then i waana know what it will run ls vtec


Modified by ls_4dr_civic at 4:26 PM 11/30/2005

 

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i think it doesnt really matter what the CR/VTEC is in

 

what all would i have to do with my stock ls to keep up

 

what car....? im assuming you both have crx's. if you get a b18b they have a good ammount of torque (compared to the dohc zc) witch you should want considering he has a b20vtec. id go with the b18, you could always turbo it or do a ls/vtec and prolly beat him. the sleeves on a b20/vtec dont tend to last that long unless they are aftermarket becuase that motor wasnt really made to rev to what he prolly revs it to.

B18b&gt;DOHC ZC

well everything changes now that you have a DA. i thought we were talkin crx

but still a zc in your car will prolly make it slower. just save your money and build your bottom end and throw on a vtec head. make sure its done rite

 

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1


that should about do it!

 

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Not trying to start a keyboard fight, but he did say his friend had a b20 with a gsr vtec head.

 

i think his friend has the integra with the b20/vtec, and judging by his username i would go out on a limb and say he has a 4dr civic.

the b18a/b would be your best choice of the two motors. i'd run him(track of course), and see how close you guys are. then add little things till you can take him(ie header/intake/cams/vtec head... list goes on). if his motor is anything but an internally stock b20 w/just a vtec head on it, then you might need a bit of help in the way of a nitrous kit, or a budget turbo setup. hth

 

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1


that should about do it!</TD></TR></TABLE>

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHADFGLKJBFKJKBJJLK

 

ls/vtec and EF is a good mix.

theres one in my area NA ls/vtec in a 90' hatch and it beat a tuned WRX STI


Thats what Im doing next year to my "winter beater". The only shitty thing is having to convert to obd-1..however you can work with the obd-1 ecu's easier to get some good tuning done.

Hell, i have a 1.5l d15b2 with MPFI swap in my 91 cx and all I have is I/H/E and no back seats or spare tire..lol....even with the d15b2 cam and cx 5 speed tranny...I can beat I/H/E lancer ralli-arts and the other day i raced a wrx and came about 6 car lengths behind....but still people I race stop and ask me what engine I have in there.....1.6vtec? b18?....lol...no its just a 1.5 l ..hehe

its all about the lightweight

 

EF8opey, nice sig

As I previously had a stock b18B1 in a 94 CX hatch, I can say it can keep up with the b20/vtec DA. I work with a guy with a 93 DA with B20/vtec, from a 60mph roll (both 3rd gear, both LS trannies IIRC) I kept up to 90 up a slight incline. Mind you I was admiring his thermal exhaust's sound, he pulled 1/2 car length as I visted the rev limiter. My mods were 2.5" Apexi WS2 exhaust + k&n on a 3" diameter short ram, 13lb konigs with 205/40/16s; his were 2.5" thermal, obd1 p72 ecu untuned, short ram, 4-1 DC header, and some bbs-like 17's (I think 205/45/17).


Its against the rules to bench race, but... in a 4dr that would probably be same weight as my hatch was, you might have a chance. I've plugged the numbers (wieght & hp), and my hatch and his teg would be very close in the 1320' in a perfect setting. The world of course ISN'T perfect, so I'll just say that the B18 will romp the ZC, things being equal. Of course, you can have I/H/E for the ZC for the same as the stock B18, which would be very equal. Regardless, the B18 will always feel more powerful than the ZC.

 

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Not trying to start a keyboard fight, but he did say his friend had a b20 with a gsr vtec head.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that part was edited in after the fact.

DOHC ZC turbo, why try to keep up, just beat his ***

 

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that part was edited in after the fact.

DOHC ZC turbo, why try to keep up, just beat his ***</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh I see, sorry didn't get to this thread fast enough to catch that.

 

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It must be early... you need caffeine my friend

 

no matter what you aint gonna keep up my friend but go with the ls the torque is really fun with those and its way faster then a zc.........but you still aint gonn a be able to keep up unless you build up

 

get the ls with a b16 or gsr tranny and tune it with 100 shot thats what im going to do

 

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Not trying to start a keyboard fight, but he did say his friend had a b20 with a gsr vtec head.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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It must be early... you need caffeine my friend </TD></TR></TABLE>

You two geniuses need to read what I quoted (what he originally wrote) and then see that he added the "B20 with a gsr vtec head".

 

Buying a motor to keep up with someone is like kissing your sister. Build a motor to beat someone, that way you can go home and f*** the prom queen.


On a second note....it think it is stupid to build a motor just to beat someone cause there is always someone faster


Just get LS and Turbo.

 

odd.... it doesn't say he modified his post.