why the constant (personal) battle of na/vs f/i ( my poor head is gonna explode )
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why the constant (personal) battle of na/vs f/i ( my poor head is gonna explode )
well i had my mind made up that its to hard and to expensive to get the accord to be fast with a resonable amount of money.
so boost it was , im gearing up to start buying stuff and i vide some nice vids of all motor cars and my mind went from total 100% made up to pure confusion . i have alot of respewct for all motor and im stuborn enough to stay with it .
but all i have to spend this year is about 3000. now that could get me a good turbo set up and i could dee upwards of 300 whp .
or for that 3000 i could get cams (500) header (800-1000) valve spring (300ish)
and some twm and switch form the diy's (1600)
right ther eim over and that doesnt include the little **** and shipping .
im so fucked in the head right now . i want a fast car and i want to keep the accord (its down to 2600 pounds now btw and another 100 or so to come off )
need some opinions
so boost it was , im gearing up to start buying stuff and i vide some nice vids of all motor cars and my mind went from total 100% made up to pure confusion . i have alot of respewct for all motor and im stuborn enough to stay with it .
but all i have to spend this year is about 3000. now that could get me a good turbo set up and i could dee upwards of 300 whp .
or for that 3000 i could get cams (500) header (800-1000) valve spring (300ish)
and some twm and switch form the diy's (1600)
right ther eim over and that doesnt include the little **** and shipping .
im so fucked in the head right now . i want a fast car and i want to keep the accord (its down to 2600 pounds now btw and another 100 or so to come off )
need some opinions
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don't let every little thing sway you from your researched plan of action.
there are advantages to NA and advantages to FI. there isn't any solution that has both, or else everyone would be doing it
there are advantages to NA and advantages to FI. there isn't any solution that has both, or else everyone would be doing it
Re: why the constant (machine4321)
If you are looking to turbo your Accord, and it still has the F22 in it, then I say go for it. If it has an H-Series motor in it, I say go NA.
I wanted boost too, but I knew turboing a Honda (The high performance engines.) engine is a sin. They designed it for NA.....and I am going to keep it that way. There is a reason why the Honda engines have to be COMPLETELY rebuilt for turbo applications. That's a BIG sign right there that it will be expensive and the reliability (One of many reason's why I love Hondas) will very likely be compromised.
To quench my turbo thirst I bought a 240SX. Now I get to have the best of both World's.
I wanted boost too, but I knew turboing a Honda (The high performance engines.) engine is a sin. They designed it for NA.....and I am going to keep it that way. There is a reason why the Honda engines have to be COMPLETELY rebuilt for turbo applications. That's a BIG sign right there that it will be expensive and the reliability (One of many reason's why I love Hondas) will very likely be compromised.
To quench my turbo thirst I bought a 240SX. Now I get to have the best of both World's.
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Re: why the constant (AndyD)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They designed it for NA.....and I am going to keep it that way. There is a reason why the Honda engines have to be COMPLETELY rebuilt for turbo applications. That's a BIG sign right there that it will be expensive and the reliability (One of many reason's why I love Hondas) will very likely be compromised. </TD></TR></TABLE>
good stuff....my thoughts exactly
any 11:1 turbo motor is going to be a huge huge longshot to be driven daily.....the tune will need to be adjusted with even slight changes in climate so you dont detonate, go NA dude.....youve got the base (11:1) for it, keep it going....
good stuff....my thoughts exactly
any 11:1 turbo motor is going to be a huge huge longshot to be driven daily.....the tune will need to be adjusted with even slight changes in climate so you dont detonate, go NA dude.....youve got the base (11:1) for it, keep it going....
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Re: why the constant (mgags7)
Honda + cheap + fast do not belong together in the same line.
If you want a fast and reliable car, take that 3K and use it as a down payment for a LS1 or WRX/EVO. Keep the Honda as a N/A car to build down the road.
If you want a fast and reliable car, take that 3K and use it as a down payment for a LS1 or WRX/EVO. Keep the Honda as a N/A car to build down the road.
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Re: why the constant (Sticky Tires)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sticky Tires »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honda + cheap + fast do not belong together in the same line.
If you want a fast and reliable car, take that 3K and use it as a down payment for a LS1 or WRX/EVO. Keep the Honda as a N/A car to build down the road.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sticky....you think its better to get a loan or lease a car, and start modding something you dont even own, and have a car payment....
i think you are looking at the money in the wrong perspective, much like the way all of america looks at money.....
Honda + cheap + fast = a car he already owns, $3k in cash he owns, will equal a fairly quick car
LS1/WRX/EVO + loan = more buying on credit
people need to see that you cant buy things until you have the damn money....cough cough us govt cough cough
If you want a fast and reliable car, take that 3K and use it as a down payment for a LS1 or WRX/EVO. Keep the Honda as a N/A car to build down the road.
</TD></TR></TABLE>sticky....you think its better to get a loan or lease a car, and start modding something you dont even own, and have a car payment....
i think you are looking at the money in the wrong perspective, much like the way all of america looks at money.....
Honda + cheap + fast = a car he already owns, $3k in cash he owns, will equal a fairly quick car
LS1/WRX/EVO + loan = more buying on credit
people need to see that you cant buy things until you have the damn money....cough cough us govt cough cough
Re: why the constant (Sticky Tires)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sticky Tires »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honda + cheap + fast do not belong together in the same line. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree, but there are some other cars out there that are even more expeinsive to mod and you really don't get too much power from them.
If I had to do it over again, and I will, but I would do it right the first time. I wouldn't buy a part, slap it on, save money, buy another part, slap it on, etc. I would keep my current engine stock, buy an already built H22 head, cams, etc and build the motor all at once. Then I would get ECM system, get it tuned, then call it a day. Then you sell off your stock motor that was in your car. It ends up being cheaper and less stressful that way.
If you build an H22 that way the first time, you can pump out some pretty impressive numbers, but not when you just slap mods on your car and hope they work together like most people do.
I agree, but there are some other cars out there that are even more expeinsive to mod and you really don't get too much power from them.
If I had to do it over again, and I will, but I would do it right the first time. I wouldn't buy a part, slap it on, save money, buy another part, slap it on, etc. I would keep my current engine stock, buy an already built H22 head, cams, etc and build the motor all at once. Then I would get ECM system, get it tuned, then call it a day. Then you sell off your stock motor that was in your car. It ends up being cheaper and less stressful that way.
If you build an H22 that way the first time, you can pump out some pretty impressive numbers, but not when you just slap mods on your car and hope they work together like most people do.
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Re: why the constant (AndyD)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree, but there are some other cars out there that are even more expeinsive to mod and you really don't get too much power from them.
If I had to do it over again, and I will, but I would do it right the first time. I wouldn't buy a part, slap it on, save money, buy another part, slap it on, etc. I would keep my current engine stock, buy an already built H22 head, cams, etc and build the motor all at once. Then I would get ECM system, get it tuned, then call it a day. Then you sell off your stock motor that was in your car. It ends up being cheaper and less stressful that way.
If you build an H22 that way the first time, you can pump out some pretty impressive numbers, but not when you just slap mods on your car and hope they work together like most people do. </TD></TR></TABLE>
wow andy, we agree on so much stuff...
after buying all the stuff that i have and putting my car together peice by peice....i would so much rather have had everything sit until i had everything i wanted, then done it all at once.....
working on a daily driver car all the time sucks....its soo stressful......
If I had to do it over again, and I will, but I would do it right the first time. I wouldn't buy a part, slap it on, save money, buy another part, slap it on, etc. I would keep my current engine stock, buy an already built H22 head, cams, etc and build the motor all at once. Then I would get ECM system, get it tuned, then call it a day. Then you sell off your stock motor that was in your car. It ends up being cheaper and less stressful that way.
If you build an H22 that way the first time, you can pump out some pretty impressive numbers, but not when you just slap mods on your car and hope they work together like most people do. </TD></TR></TABLE>
wow andy, we agree on so much stuff...
after buying all the stuff that i have and putting my car together peice by peice....i would so much rather have had everything sit until i had everything i wanted, then done it all at once.....
working on a daily driver car all the time sucks....its soo stressful......
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Re: why the constant (mgags7)
Well, with 3K there's no way in hell he's gonna make an accord fast going the N/A route. It will be quick, but not fast.
Turbo is the best way, besides nitrous. But then there's a chance of him blowing up and engine and being assed out.
I should've said if money wasn't an issue, get the LS1/STI/EVO.
It's better to have a back up car instead of a one dead one.
But it all comes down to what he wants. Does he want to drag it or track/autocross it?
Or does he have the need for speed? If so there are other options. He did say he has only 3K for this year. IMO, save up to 10K and build a bad *** turbo setup or whatever he wants. Just my .02 cents.
Turbo is the best way, besides nitrous. But then there's a chance of him blowing up and engine and being assed out.
I should've said if money wasn't an issue, get the LS1/STI/EVO.
It's better to have a back up car instead of a one dead one.
But it all comes down to what he wants. Does he want to drag it or track/autocross it?
Or does he have the need for speed? If so there are other options. He did say he has only 3K for this year. IMO, save up to 10K and build a bad *** turbo setup or whatever he wants. Just my .02 cents.
Re: why the constant (mgags7)
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wow andy, we agree on so much stuff... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, and unfortunately there aren't too many others who think this way either. Sticky Tires is one of them too. He has good advice.
There are SOOO many Honda owners out there who could have MUCH faster cars for the money they wasted on shyt mods and piecing it together.
I don't regret doing my H22 swap because after I parted out my H23 and spare H22 parts, it pretty much paid for itself. However, if I am looking to make some real power, that's when I would build an H22 on the side and only swap it in when it is built. No cutting corners. Do it right or don't do it at all.
That's what i am going to do with my 240SX too. Since the KA24E engine is dead, I am going to swap in a stock SR20 into it. I will then buy only an SR20 longblock, build it, swap out the stock SR20, sell it, and swap the built one it and call it a day.
wow andy, we agree on so much stuff... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, and unfortunately there aren't too many others who think this way either. Sticky Tires is one of them too. He has good advice.
There are SOOO many Honda owners out there who could have MUCH faster cars for the money they wasted on shyt mods and piecing it together.
I don't regret doing my H22 swap because after I parted out my H23 and spare H22 parts, it pretty much paid for itself. However, if I am looking to make some real power, that's when I would build an H22 on the side and only swap it in when it is built. No cutting corners. Do it right or don't do it at all.
That's what i am going to do with my 240SX too. Since the KA24E engine is dead, I am going to swap in a stock SR20 into it. I will then buy only an SR20 longblock, build it, swap out the stock SR20, sell it, and swap the built one it and call it a day.
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Re: why the constant (AndyD)
NA..
this is what i did...
i searched for like 3months on honda tech. One day i found a h22 with motor and tranny and atts for 800 +100 for the guy to drive it to me. I spent a month selling the tranny atts and other stuff. i made over $1200. I used that to buy type s pistons, gasket kit, motor lift. sure it wont be the best NA motor but it will have pritty nice pull. as i get more money i will buy WTM itb's, s300, SMSP header, some nice cams, and some nice cam gears
this is what i did...
i searched for like 3months on honda tech. One day i found a h22 with motor and tranny and atts for 800 +100 for the guy to drive it to me. I spent a month selling the tranny atts and other stuff. i made over $1200. I used that to buy type s pistons, gasket kit, motor lift. sure it wont be the best NA motor but it will have pritty nice pull. as i get more money i will buy WTM itb's, s300, SMSP header, some nice cams, and some nice cam gears
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Re: why the constant (Sticky Tires)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sticky Tires »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, with 3K there's no way in hell he's gonna make an accord fast going the N/A route. It will be quick, but not fast.
Turbo is the best way, besides nitrous. But then there's a chance of him blowing up and engine and being assed out.
I should've said if money wasn't an issue, get the LS1/STI/EVO.
It's better to have a back up car instead of a one dead one.
But it all comes down to what he wants. Does he want to drag it or track/autocross it?
Or does he have the need for speed? If so there are other options. He did say he has only 3K for this year. IMO, save up to 10K and build a bad *** turbo setup or whatever he wants. Just my .02 cents. </TD></TR></TABLE>
true true....i think you should wait machine...maybe play that 3k in the stock market and try to make some on it....then sometime next year buy all of whatever at the same time....
goose....i have the need.....the need for speed..... lol top gun...
Turbo is the best way, besides nitrous. But then there's a chance of him blowing up and engine and being assed out.
I should've said if money wasn't an issue, get the LS1/STI/EVO.
It's better to have a back up car instead of a one dead one.
But it all comes down to what he wants. Does he want to drag it or track/autocross it?
Or does he have the need for speed? If so there are other options. He did say he has only 3K for this year. IMO, save up to 10K and build a bad *** turbo setup or whatever he wants. Just my .02 cents. </TD></TR></TABLE>
true true....i think you should wait machine...maybe play that 3k in the stock market and try to make some on it....then sometime next year buy all of whatever at the same time....
goose....i have the need.....the need for speed..... lol top gun...
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Re: why the constant (AndyD)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, and unfortunately there aren't too many others who think this way either. Sticky Tires is one of them too. He has good advice. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks man.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are SOOO many Honda owners out there who could have MUCH faster cars for the money they wasted on shyt mods and piecing it together.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No cutting corners. Do it right or don't do it at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Very true. Sig worthy statements. There are so many people blowing $10-30K to make there Honda's fast. With that much money you can get something with warranty and already turbo'd and such, or start off with a better platform.
But in the end, it's not my car. So do what you want to make yourself happy. I just hate seeing people spending a shitload of money then have the engine blow and cant find a ride to work, or worse, sell the car/setup because they give up.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Thanks man.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are SOOO many Honda owners out there who could have MUCH faster cars for the money they wasted on shyt mods and piecing it together.
</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No cutting corners. Do it right or don't do it at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Very true. Sig worthy statements. There are so many people blowing $10-30K to make there Honda's fast. With that much money you can get something with warranty and already turbo'd and such, or start off with a better platform.
But in the end, it's not my car. So do what you want to make yourself happy. I just hate seeing people spending a shitload of money then have the engine blow and cant find a ride to work, or worse, sell the car/setup because they give up.
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Re: why the constant (92hondalude)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92hondalude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NA..
this is what i did...
i searched for like 3months on honda tech. One day i found a h22 with motor and tranny and atts for 800 +100 for the guy to drive it to me. I spent a month selling the tranny atts and other stuff. i made over $1200. I used that to buy type s pistons, gasket kit, motor lift. sure it wont be the best NA motor but it will have pritty nice pull. as i get more money i will buy WTM itb's, s300, SMSP header, some nice cams, and some nice cam gears </TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh, but nick...you're still a ricer
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sticky Tires »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks man.
Very true. Sig worthy statements. There are so many people blowing $10-30K to make there Honda's fast. With that much money you can get something with warranty and already turbo'd and such, or start off with a better platform.
But in the end, it's not my car. So do what you want to make yourself happy. I just hate seeing people spending a shitload of money then have the engine blow and cant find a ride to work, or worse, sell the car/setup because they give up. </TD></TR></TABLE>
for that $12k you can easily get something that's fast, cheap, AND reliable. But I'm already doing that
Save your daily driver for just that: daily driving.
this is what i did...
i searched for like 3months on honda tech. One day i found a h22 with motor and tranny and atts for 800 +100 for the guy to drive it to me. I spent a month selling the tranny atts and other stuff. i made over $1200. I used that to buy type s pistons, gasket kit, motor lift. sure it wont be the best NA motor but it will have pritty nice pull. as i get more money i will buy WTM itb's, s300, SMSP header, some nice cams, and some nice cam gears
</TD></TR></TABLE>Oh, but nick...you're still a ricer
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sticky Tires »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks man.
Very true. Sig worthy statements. There are so many people blowing $10-30K to make there Honda's fast. With that much money you can get something with warranty and already turbo'd and such, or start off with a better platform.
But in the end, it's not my car. So do what you want to make yourself happy. I just hate seeing people spending a shitload of money then have the engine blow and cant find a ride to work, or worse, sell the car/setup because they give up. </TD></TR></TABLE>
for that $12k you can easily get something that's fast, cheap, AND reliable. But I'm already doing that
Save your daily driver for just that: daily driving.
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Re: why the constant (mgags7)
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goose....i have the need.....the need for speed..... lol top gun... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Get a bike.
goose....i have the need.....the need for speed..... lol top gun...
</TD></TR></TABLE>Get a bike.
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Re: why the constant
This has always been a pointless debate and what it all comes down to is your personal preferences...
What kind of motor is going to suit you best?
You have to go over all the pros and cons of both FI and NA motors and see which better suits your lifestyle... Many things will be important factors...
Is this for a daily driver, a track car? Can you deal with loud exhaust or do you want the silence of a turbo motor? Do you want to make all the power up high or do you want some low end torque, or decent torque all across the board... How fast do you actually want your car to be? Do you wanna drop some weight or have a fully loaded daily driver?
Even though I personally don't think it is much more, but many say a turbo car is a lot more maintenance...
Lot of things to look at when deciding... Like I said it comes down to personal preference... I personally prefer a larger turbo motor with tons of low end torque... It's quiet but still hauls *** in a car that is fully loaded...
What kind of motor is going to suit you best?
You have to go over all the pros and cons of both FI and NA motors and see which better suits your lifestyle... Many things will be important factors...
Is this for a daily driver, a track car? Can you deal with loud exhaust or do you want the silence of a turbo motor? Do you want to make all the power up high or do you want some low end torque, or decent torque all across the board... How fast do you actually want your car to be? Do you wanna drop some weight or have a fully loaded daily driver?
Even though I personally don't think it is much more, but many say a turbo car is a lot more maintenance...
Lot of things to look at when deciding... Like I said it comes down to personal preference... I personally prefer a larger turbo motor with tons of low end torque... It's quiet but still hauls *** in a car that is fully loaded...
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in my situation, I bought an h22 swap with an intake, header, and some rims because I needed to to get the car running. I'm driving a 1991 corolla that's about to die and even though i wanted my prelude to be a summer car, I might end up needing it in the harsh New England winter if the corolla doens't make it. By next fall I'm hoping to get myself an STI and modding teh prelude for N/A. why mod the slower car? simply because i LOVE 4G preludes and i'd rather trash the STI and get insurance for that than my 4G. and plus, I COULD over teh years end up modding both and have a nice turbo AWD machine and a sick N/A to whip around in..
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Re: why the constant (Sam1am26)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sam1am26 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This has always been a pointless debate and what it all comes down to is your personal preferences...
What kind of motor is going to suit you best?
You have to go over all the pros and cons of both FI and NA motors and see which better suits your lifestyle... Many things will be important factors...
Is this for a daily driver, a track car? Can you deal with loud exhaust or do you want the silence of a turbo motor? Do you want to make all the power up high or do you want some low end torque, or decent torque all across the board... How fast do you actually want your car to be? Do you wanna drop some weight or have a fully loaded daily driver?
Even though I personally don't think it is much more, but many say a turbo car is a lot more maintenance...
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My thoughts exactly, great post.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shutta »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in my situation, I bought an h22 swap with an intake, header, and some rims because I needed to to get the car running. I'm driving a 1991 corolla that's about to die and even though i wanted my prelude to be a summer car, I might end up needing it in the harsh New England winter if the corolla doens't make it. By next fall I'm hoping to get myself an STI and modding teh prelude for N/A. why mod the slower car? simply because i LOVE 4G preludes and i'd rather trash the STI and get insurance for that than my 4G. and plus, I COULD over teh years end up modding both and have a nice turbo AWD machine and a sick N/A to whip around in.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Stop copying my style.
What kind of motor is going to suit you best?
You have to go over all the pros and cons of both FI and NA motors and see which better suits your lifestyle... Many things will be important factors...
Is this for a daily driver, a track car? Can you deal with loud exhaust or do you want the silence of a turbo motor? Do you want to make all the power up high or do you want some low end torque, or decent torque all across the board... How fast do you actually want your car to be? Do you wanna drop some weight or have a fully loaded daily driver?
Even though I personally don't think it is much more, but many say a turbo car is a lot more maintenance...
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My thoughts exactly, great post.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shutta »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in my situation, I bought an h22 swap with an intake, header, and some rims because I needed to to get the car running. I'm driving a 1991 corolla that's about to die and even though i wanted my prelude to be a summer car, I might end up needing it in the harsh New England winter if the corolla doens't make it. By next fall I'm hoping to get myself an STI and modding teh prelude for N/A. why mod the slower car? simply because i LOVE 4G preludes and i'd rather trash the STI and get insurance for that than my 4G. and plus, I COULD over teh years end up modding both and have a nice turbo AWD machine and a sick N/A to whip around in.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Stop copying my style.
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i want to thank you guys for your help ( and no dick head resonces ) you all put in good points.
for the money i have , n/a will not be the fastes thing for me . ive decided to go boost this year and see how i like it . i cant reall down on it if i havent owned it on a day to day basis .
i to think that turboing a n/a honda motor a "sin" , but **** we sin all the time lol
im sure gonna miss the wail of the itbs but im sure the power will make up for that
for the money i have , n/a will not be the fastes thing for me . ive decided to go boost this year and see how i like it . i cant reall down on it if i havent owned it on a day to day basis .
i to think that turboing a n/a honda motor a "sin" , but **** we sin all the time lol
im sure gonna miss the wail of the itbs but im sure the power will make up for that
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Oh, but nick...you're still a ricer
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shut up you LS1 loser
your letting down the honda community.
Oh, but nick...you're still a ricer
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shut up you LS1 loser
your letting down the honda community.
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I'm just like you. My brother has a B18C1 NA with 214whp in a civic. So fun to drive. My other friend has 521whp out of a 2.0L turbo integra...even more radical to drive...I drive both and I'm like 'Time to turbo the lude, no wait, time to cam this bitch.'
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