I just installed a 12lb fidanza flywheel and I cant see the timing marks on it because it is shifted over about 1 inch towards the tranny. Is there any other way to check the timing without using the flywheel marks?

 

Um, yeah. You arent supposed to look at the flywheel for timing... I'm not sure how you could even see it with everything bolted up and that rubber thing in the hole.

 

I am serious bro. The flywheel is shifted about 1 inch towards the tranny so when I pull the plug out I can't even see the teeth on the flywheel so what to do.

 

Timing = timing belt side
Tranny = other side

In fact, you can set the timing on an engine without the tranny even on. No joke, I did it when I rebuilt the 4g63, thing was still on a motor stand.

 

where is the mark on the timing bellt side? I looked around and did not see any arrows to line up when I shoot the timing gun at it? I don't enev recall if there is a timing mark on the crank pulley

 

Are you trying to set the base timing or have the engined timed correctly (pistons not saying hello to valves)?

No timing gun is needed for having the engined timed correctly, one is useful for base timing however.

 

^ do you have a prelude?
if not please stop replying....it explains in any manual for a prelude how to check the timing using the marks on the flywheel.....i also replaced mine recently and the flywheel is shifted over like his.

i would like to hear if anyone has a solution for this as well.

 

I've been watching this as well since I have the same problem with my aftermarket flywheel. I was told to find tdc of cylinder 1 then use white out or something to put a mark on the wheel to give something to reference to. Always looking for ideas to help as I think it's out and since the car is stored till spring I'd like to be able to do something to set it properly once it's out.

 

Looks like I might have to re-install the stock flywheel to set my timing

 

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Nope! What you can do is this. I know you have seen on some cars have there valvecover cutout where there camgears are? So remove the upper timing cover and/or cut your valve cover. Point the timing light at the cam gears and set your timing accordingly. You will see two marks when they are parallel to each other that is how u tell what your timing is set at. It is actually very simple and more accurate then the flywheel mark IMO if your timing belt is on correct .

A trick my teamleader showed me about 4 or 5 years ago when I first stared at the dealership on my own car . Works with stock and aftermarket gears . Hope this helps

 

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Yep, thats why I say 'my Honda'.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> it explains in any manual for a prelude how to check the timing using the marks on the flywheel </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmm, timing marks on a peice inside the transmission or timing marks on something covered by a peice of plastic. Gimme option # 2 kthx.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by md23vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> know you have seen on some cars have there valvecover cutout where there camgears are? So remove the upper timing cover and/or cut your valve cover. Point the timing light at the cam gears and set your timing accordingly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

md23vtec FTW

 

Thanks for the input but how do I know if the timing is retarded or advanced also from what you are saying is that the timing light will flash when the two marks on the camshaft line up? isnt the timing light supposed to flash somewhere around 18d BTDC that's why there is a red line on the flywheel for TDC and the White line is at 18d BTDC if not thats cool but I think I remember something like that .

Thanks
Again

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ofthesun93 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Um, yeah. You arent supposed to look at the flywheel for timing... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Um, yeah, you ARE supposed to look at the flywheel to check the timing on a Prelude engine. IMO that's the only way to get it exactly right....the cam gears are just not precise enough.

I also have the thinner Fidanza flywheel and what I did was put some little dabs of white and red paint over the little notches for TDC and 15 degrees (respectively). Hopefully yours did come with those little notches ...

 

i really hate it when people just don't know what they are talking about....if you have read any manual on your prelude it explains to point the timing light at the flywheel......and then you can make minor adjustments with the distributor

 

It might work doing it that way but I agree that using the flywheel is more accurate looks like I have to break out the nail polish hopefully I can mark it without dropping the tranny again.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silver Surfer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i really hate it when people just don't know what they are talking about....if you have read any manual on your prelude it explains to point the timing light at the flywheel......and then you can make minor adjustments with the distributor</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you think that what I said is incorrect then your wrong. I have been working for honda over 5years now and the guy who showed me that trick has been with honda since the 70's and has raced honda indy cars. A very knowledgeable man! How about you know what your talking about instead of assuming.

There is more then one way to check your timing. Honda says to use the flywheel because its uncovered when you pull out the plug on the block. In this guys case he has an aftermarket flywheel. SO I was telling him another way to check his timing which is very accurate unlike the mark on his aftermarket flywheel. If you check timing on a stock prelude at the flywheel and the camgears it will be the exact same reading 10 out of 10 times. Try this and get back and tell me if correct or not. If you just assume without knowing first hand it shows your own ignorance.

 

So do you have cross-hairs to line everything up to 15* ?

I'm thinking that since the x-hairs are there, and the flywheel has a bigger diameter, the flywheel would be the best way. I'm not saying that you couldn't use the cam gears.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by M@ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So do you have cross-hairs to line everything up to 15* ?

I'm thinking that since the x-hairs are there, and the flywheel has a bigger diameter, the flywheel would be the best way. I'm not saying that you couldn't use the cam gears.</TD></TR></TABLE>

When the two marks and the cam gears are parallel thats how u tel where they are set. they should be even with then plane of the head. Same as if you set the cams to tdc if you look at the outside marks they are dead even with the plane of the head( where the valve gasket sits under the valve cover.

The only reason I said you can check it this way is because the original creator of this thread doesn't have a stock flywheel and doesn't have the correct marks. I defiantly did not say the flywheel wasn't accurate, but in this guys case since he doesn't have marks on the flywheel to go off of I told him a different way to set his timing.

 

ok sorry to bring this back from the dead but im having the same issue... ive got a aftermarket light weight flywheel. with no timing marks. ive tried timing it with the cam gears.. only way to get cam gears to line up is to have the dizzy all the way retarded and it runs like ***... my setup is h22a w/ a h23 obd1 dizzy and i also idle at 750-800 with service connector jumped.. i have also checked that everything was synced up and it is engine runs great with dizzy in the middle/..

 

if u get an aftermarket flywheel, do you have to reset the timing?