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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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what that says^
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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http://www.nasaproracing.com/r...e.pdf
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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Donno if you can, but it's not a good idea.

Any1 have the pic of the H2 PY ITR with JDM front end wreck at VIR from 03 ECHC season? It wasn't pretty .....
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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i agree its not a good idea but could not tell by reading the rules if its was allowed or not. and i did read the rules several times.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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If the rules do not say you can do it, then you cant
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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Default Re: are you allowed to remove the bumper beams in h1? (.RJ)

ok let me be more specific.

c) Hood, BUMPER SUPPORTS, and the front bumper cover may be replaced with a substitute of unrestricted material.

is this talking about the bumper beam? or the supports that hold up the bumper cover?

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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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sounds like by including "supports," they're allowing you freedom in method of attachment when using a bumper cover of alternate material. or something like that.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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yeah thats what i was thinking but just wanted a second opinion
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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I take "bumper supports" to mean the supports behind it. That means that you can replace what you call the "beams".
I have seen H1 cars do it, and it's a pretty good weight savings if you make your own.

I believe if they meant "attachments", they would say that instead of supports...
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 06:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPiFF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Donno if you can, but it's not a good idea.

Any1 have the pic of the H2 PY ITR with JDM front end wreck at VIR from 03 ECHC season? It wasn't pretty .....</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have one picture of my car somewhere before the crash, can't remember if we took pics after. The frame rails absorbed the impact, only got a couple of scratches on the exhaust manifold heat sheild though.

I miss it in all it's yellow JDM rice glory, but now it's all go and no show.


Modified by B18C5 EH at 7:52 AM 11/28/2005
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 06:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ekim952522000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

c) Hood, BUMPER SUPPORTS, and the front bumper cover may be replaced with a substitute of unrestricted material.</TD></TR></TABLE>

There are several cars running on the West Coast that have taken advantage of that rule and not been protested or otherwise DQed. To simply replace it with fiberglass would be legal, just stupid. The ones I've seen have gone tubular like the offroad and buggy guys do.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the rules do not say you can do it, then you cant</TD></TR></TABLE>

repost X 2,000,000
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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What if you build a bumper support out of SGR t-shirts?
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What if you build a bumper support out of SGR t-shirts?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If the rules do not say you can do it, then you cant
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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Alright then. I'm rebuilding mine with peeps

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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Johnny Mac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Quote, originally posted by .RJ »
What if you build a bumper support out of SGR t-shirts?


If the rules do not say you can do it, then you cant</TD></TR></TABLE>


Now, that is damn funny Johnny!


Yeah, as John mentioned, tubular seems to be the way to go. Saves some weight, and still provides the structure you need there!
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