Descent to good deal
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Descent? DESCENT??? That's a slippery slope you're going down...
descent
One entry found for descent.
Main Entry: de·scent
Pronunciation: di-'sent
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French descente, from Old French descendre
1 a : derivation from an ancestor : BIRTH, LINEAGE <of French descent> b : transmission or devolution of an estate by inheritance usually in the descending line c : the fact or process of originating from an ancestral stock d : the shaping or development in nature and character by transmission from a source : DERIVATION
2 : the act or process of descending
3 : a step downward in a scale of gradation; specifically : one generation in an ancestral line or genealogical scale
4 a : an inclination downward : SLOPE b : a descending way (as a downgrade or stairway) c obsolete : the lowest part
5 a : ATTACK, INVASION b : a sudden disconcerting appearance (as for a visit)
6 : a downward step (as in station or value) : DECLINE <descent of the family to actual poverty>
So this discussion needs to go downhill to get that good deal, huh?
You didn't by any chance mean "decent" instead of "descent", did you?

Descent? DESCENT??? That's a slippery slope you're going down...

descent
One entry found for descent.
Main Entry: de·scent
Pronunciation: di-'sent
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French descente, from Old French descendre
1 a : derivation from an ancestor : BIRTH, LINEAGE <of French descent> b : transmission or devolution of an estate by inheritance usually in the descending line c : the fact or process of originating from an ancestral stock d : the shaping or development in nature and character by transmission from a source : DERIVATION
2 : the act or process of descending
3 : a step downward in a scale of gradation; specifically : one generation in an ancestral line or genealogical scale
4 a : an inclination downward : SLOPE b : a descending way (as a downgrade or stairway) c obsolete : the lowest part
5 a : ATTACK, INVASION b : a sudden disconcerting appearance (as for a visit)
6 : a downward step (as in station or value) : DECLINE <descent of the family to actual poverty>
So this discussion needs to go downhill to get that good deal, huh?

You didn't by any chance mean "decent" instead of "descent", did you?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sscguy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ah, I was wondering what the hell descent had to do with anything
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Using the words "descent" and "hell" together is very appropriate.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Using the words "descent" and "hell" together is very appropriate.

Our Local Pep Boys came to our shop to sell us a bunch of those but we all bought some Snap On impacts. Don't know if there any good but for that price its well worth a try.
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I picked one up a couple months ago (of course they were $99 a couple months ago.....dammit) and I'm happy with it. One battery changed tires twice on about 3 cars at the track with no signs of weekness.
After suffering from "Descension" into the Forum Abyss, this thread, *AND* the deal, is active!! (This was the most recent, most relevant thread to which I felt I should reply.. Apologies in advance to those I offend!!
(**I did seek .RJ's advice via PM, but no reply...**))
On Saturday I bought the Goodyear Racing 24V 1/2" Impact Wrench from PB. It was $89.99, with a $20 mail-in rebate, and comes with the following: Instructions; Plastic Kit Case; 24V Battery; Plug-in Charger; 5" Extension; 3/4, 13/16, 19mm, 21mm Deep Sockets (Impact).
When I got home and opened it, I noticed that there was a crack & indentation at the base of the Gun's Housing, where the Battery latches. This made it difficult for the Battery to slide in securely. The Gun was functional with the charge the battery held, but I never had a chance to use it on anything, especially with a full charge.
I returned it the following day for another set. When I got home this time, I heard a rattling sound inside the Gun, where most of the moving parts were. I went back to return it for another set (
for not opening that one in-store!!).
OK, by now, most would've given up. But I've recently read A CRAPLOAD of testimony saying how well it worked for the things people were doing. So, I decided to give it a 3 strike chance... I would *NOT* be this lenient with mail-order items, tool or not.
I picked up the last UNOPENED SET (it seemed the PB staff were OK with just placing my returns back on the shelf, so BEWARE (look for the black ziptie that holds the case shut)), and opened it on site. Things looked OK, sounded OK, and the Gun spun. I fully discharged the battery at home (held finger on the trigger until it stopped X 421235), then charged the Battery until the light went Green. Before bed, I fitted the 19mm Socket, and held it with my Hand (
... please find a better way to test your Impact Driver!!
). When I pulled the Trigger lightly, the Gun made it's cracking noise, and the Socket didn't move.
I'm not that strong... Screech could kick my ***... But I pulled the trigger fully, and the sucker stayed in place!!! My expectations got shot to hell, but I wanted to wait at least one more day before I made a bigger fool of myself at PB...
Today, I went downstairs and tried this baby out on my Lugnuts. With the car on the ground, this Gun pulled the Lugnuts off without problem!
, Right??? Wrong. I forgot to re-tighten my Lugnuts, and found that they had loosened to around 70'-lbs.
So, I retightened my Lugnuts back to 80, went back upstairs, played "The [Jimi-esque] Star Spangled Banner" with my new toy, spun the gun some more, annoyed my neighbors (you get the picture)...
On the same (INITIAL) charge, I went back to my car and tightened two Lugnuts to 100'-lbs. This thing didn't struggle to break it loose, but it took a couple of impacts (maybe 1/4 of a second) before it zipped off... It probably shouldn't do this if it were REALLY a 200'-lbs max Gun, but it had no problem with the Lugnuts that I could see.
Lug Nuts seem to be the cutoff for practicality, as most Torque Specs are below 100'-lbs for my near-stock EJ8... Based on the Haynes Manual, 135'-lbs seems to be the upper limit, but I don't want to nor do I need to start mucking with my Axle Nuts or my Crankshaft Pulley Bolt. The next test will be my Suspension Bolts, so we'll see how that goes. For your own car, you'll have to decide if the "100'-lbs LugNut Test" is a good benchmark or not.
Anyway, a couple of things to consider... This is based on performance of this tool on it's Battery's first charge (for me). From what I've read at HowStuffWorks.com about Rechargeable Batteries, It might take me a few more Drain/Charge cycles before I get the peak performance from the Battery, and (I expect) my Gun. Furthermore, my Lug Studs are in very good condition, so rusted and/or fused bolts might pose a problem for those in more challenging climes (or for myself later). Finally, I used a dual-beam Craftsman Torque Wrench to check my Lugnuts... I hope to get a better one a couple of $$ from now.
If you're interested, call your local PB and see if they still have 'em (***AND the rebate***). They also have spare batteries for $40 (more than 50% of the unit's cost??? Pricing =
). Just remember to look for the black ziptie on the case's handle (that means it wasn't opened/returned!!). I'll post an update to it's performance at the first problem I encounter, or in a couple of months.
Hope this helps!
JasonGhostz
Mods/Admins -- Feel free to move this to the GDD Forum if necessary... (I did make an attempt to communicate...
)
(**I did seek .RJ's advice via PM, but no reply...**))On Saturday I bought the Goodyear Racing 24V 1/2" Impact Wrench from PB. It was $89.99, with a $20 mail-in rebate, and comes with the following: Instructions; Plastic Kit Case; 24V Battery; Plug-in Charger; 5" Extension; 3/4, 13/16, 19mm, 21mm Deep Sockets (Impact).
When I got home and opened it, I noticed that there was a crack & indentation at the base of the Gun's Housing, where the Battery latches. This made it difficult for the Battery to slide in securely. The Gun was functional with the charge the battery held, but I never had a chance to use it on anything, especially with a full charge.
I returned it the following day for another set. When I got home this time, I heard a rattling sound inside the Gun, where most of the moving parts were. I went back to return it for another set (
for not opening that one in-store!!).OK, by now, most would've given up. But I've recently read A CRAPLOAD of testimony saying how well it worked for the things people were doing. So, I decided to give it a 3 strike chance... I would *NOT* be this lenient with mail-order items, tool or not.
I picked up the last UNOPENED SET (it seemed the PB staff were OK with just placing my returns back on the shelf, so BEWARE (look for the black ziptie that holds the case shut)), and opened it on site. Things looked OK, sounded OK, and the Gun spun. I fully discharged the battery at home (held finger on the trigger until it stopped X 421235), then charged the Battery until the light went Green. Before bed, I fitted the 19mm Socket, and held it with my Hand (
... please find a better way to test your Impact Driver!!
). When I pulled the Trigger lightly, the Gun made it's cracking noise, and the Socket didn't move.I'm not that strong... Screech could kick my ***... But I pulled the trigger fully, and the sucker stayed in place!!! My expectations got shot to hell, but I wanted to wait at least one more day before I made a bigger fool of myself at PB...
Today, I went downstairs and tried this baby out on my Lugnuts. With the car on the ground, this Gun pulled the Lugnuts off without problem!
, Right??? Wrong. I forgot to re-tighten my Lugnuts, and found that they had loosened to around 70'-lbs.
So, I retightened my Lugnuts back to 80, went back upstairs, played "The [Jimi-esque] Star Spangled Banner" with my new toy, spun the gun some more, annoyed my neighbors (you get the picture)...
On the same (INITIAL) charge, I went back to my car and tightened two Lugnuts to 100'-lbs. This thing didn't struggle to break it loose, but it took a couple of impacts (maybe 1/4 of a second) before it zipped off... It probably shouldn't do this if it were REALLY a 200'-lbs max Gun, but it had no problem with the Lugnuts that I could see.
Lug Nuts seem to be the cutoff for practicality, as most Torque Specs are below 100'-lbs for my near-stock EJ8... Based on the Haynes Manual, 135'-lbs seems to be the upper limit, but I don't want to nor do I need to start mucking with my Axle Nuts or my Crankshaft Pulley Bolt. The next test will be my Suspension Bolts, so we'll see how that goes. For your own car, you'll have to decide if the "100'-lbs LugNut Test" is a good benchmark or not.
Anyway, a couple of things to consider... This is based on performance of this tool on it's Battery's first charge (for me). From what I've read at HowStuffWorks.com about Rechargeable Batteries, It might take me a few more Drain/Charge cycles before I get the peak performance from the Battery, and (I expect) my Gun. Furthermore, my Lug Studs are in very good condition, so rusted and/or fused bolts might pose a problem for those in more challenging climes (or for myself later). Finally, I used a dual-beam Craftsman Torque Wrench to check my Lugnuts... I hope to get a better one a couple of $$ from now.
If you're interested, call your local PB and see if they still have 'em (***AND the rebate***). They also have spare batteries for $40 (more than 50% of the unit's cost??? Pricing =
). Just remember to look for the black ziptie on the case's handle (that means it wasn't opened/returned!!). I'll post an update to it's performance at the first problem I encounter, or in a couple of months.Hope this helps!
JasonGhostz
Mods/Admins -- Feel free to move this to the GDD Forum if necessary... (I did make an attempt to communicate...
)
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