What is everyone running.......pros and cons. Recomendations??

 

aem ems w/ apex'i solenoid

pros: can be simulated gear based, speed based, two stage, lots of options and cool things to do. once setup, is dead nuts on with error correction. can be used with manifold pressure or co2

con: currently only vss input is drive wheels which means if you start spinning, you wont stop unless you throttle out of it.

 

Blitz SBC-ID

Has all the normal ****, and gear dependant boost.

love it, and EASY TO USE

 

Anyone use the turbosmart one. Seems like a sweet piece

http://www.boostcontroller.com...3D112

 

i've been told you can use teh AVC-R to over 30psi, but no one has ever said what map sensor setting you have to set it to, in order to do it.

 

depends on the wg spring and the ammount of backpressure, with lots of backpressure the ems with the gm soleniod needs a heavy spring. if you use the ems and 2 soleniods you can make wtf ever boost you want with whatever spring you want..

the turbosmart boost controler that looks like a guage sucks.... one of my customers has one... i hate it

 

2 solenoids shouldn't make much of a difference at all. You're still limited by the amount of pressure you can apply to the top of the gate, manifold pressure. The only way to run a small spring and alot of boost with alot of backpressure, is with more pressure applied to the top of the gate, with co2. How would an extra solenoid do it?

 

tony... i run the 2nd soleniod going to the bottom of the wg, it work oppsite of the soleniod going to the top of the wg, so that when the one going to the top is opening, the other one on the bottom is closing. with a "normal" setup you have equal pressure on the top and bottom, so the spring is pretty much the only thing holding the wg closed, this way you have all hte boost pressure on top of the spring pressure holding it closed, less pressure on the bottom. you can also achieve this with a really small line or a restrictor in the vac line going to the bottom of the wg. i like 2 soleniods over the restrictor b/c the wg can react faster

 

Gotcha. Are you using the aem to control the bottom sol. as well? How does that work?

 

i wire them to the same output... the soleniod going to the top is normally closed, the one going to the bottom is normally open, so at 0duty you get min boost (no boost on the top, full boost on the bottom), at 100% duty you get max boost ( no boost to the bottom, full boost to the top)

 

So no GM solenoids. Has that been working pretty good for you?

 

so far it is... i have it running on one supra and a honda, i have talked a few people through setting this up. i use a GM soleniod (normally open) and a perrin soleniod (normally closed).

on the supra we could get it to hold boost to redline, it would fall from 35 to 27psi by redline with just the gm soleniod, added the perrin soleniod in there, now it holds 35psi rock solid. not sure what manifold it has, but i it has a giant hks wg (50something mm?)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the turbosmart boost controler that looks like a guage sucks.... one of my customers has one... i hate it</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm running the turbosmart and seem to like it pretty well, Get's a from me. Paul

 

that dual solonoid thing sounds pretty cool.

i never ran my avcr over 25psi this year but it held that ok. not sure what i want to use next year.

 

We used the Innovative MSBC-1 on a friends car. It worked very well and couldnt be easier to use. Of course all setups are different, but we were able to make 35 pounds on a 7psi spring with this particular setup. It allows you to set boost per gear and changes via clutch switch. You can also change ramp rate for each gear. I never experimented with the timed mode but that is an option as well.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by g2turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We used the Innovative MSBC-1 on a friends car. It worked very well and couldnt be easier to use. Of course all setups are different, but we were able to make 35 pounds on a 7psi spring with this particular setup. It allows you to set boost per gear and changes via clutch switch. You can also change ramp rate for each gear. I never experimented with the timed mode but that is an option as well.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, I had one of those on the race car. I actually had a ton of issues with that piece. When it worked it was awesome, but boost would overshoot quite a bit then undershoot, then level out. I am looking for something that will hold the boost that you tell it too, without all of this up and down crap.

Maybe this solenoid setup is what I need to get. Im guessing I can control that through the MoTec M400???? It is a street car, so I really don't want to have to use CO2, but if needed I will.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1438380

ams-1000....will work with or without co2.

 

We switched to the innovative basically with a 5lb spring and Co2 to pressure WG. We used the timed boost system and worked perfectly. Problem with using older controllers is that I needed to launch with very low boost otherwise I would spin the slicks. They only allowed +-50% so pushing the big numbers was not allowable.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so far it is... i have it running on one supra and a honda, i have talked a few people through setting this up. i use a GM soleniod (normally open) and a perrin soleniod (normally closed).

on the supra we could get it to hold boost to redline, it would fall from 35 to 27psi by redline with just the gm soleniod, added the perrin soleniod in there, now it holds 35psi rock solid. not sure what manifold it has, but i it has a giant hks wg (50something mm?)</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you want threaded ports for braided line or pushlocks i've setup two apexi solenoids like that, since the apexi you can setup as either nc or no.

 

Turbosmart E-Boost gets a :Thuumbsup: from me. Most who hate it, don't know how to use it.

It really is not that hard..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jared &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you want threaded ports for braided line or pushlocks i've setup two apexi solenoids like that, since the apexi you can setup as either nc or no.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yep.. you can do taht w/the perrin soleniod as well, but most people already ahve a gm soleniod, so we just leave that in there and add the other one