Blown Shocks!! How to prevent?
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Blown Shocks!! How to prevent?
Im just trying to understans how some people get there car so low. Are aftermarket shocks like tokico or kyb agx's smaller then oem shocks? I mean in dimensions. I have ground control coilovers with kyb gr-s shocks. an i just recently took of my shock and it was blown. My car wasnt that low, and no other shcok blew. It had a rubber bumpstop, but broke too. What can i do to prevent shcosk from blowing, and having that "bottoming out" feeling. But im trying to get the fender to tuck tire just about 1/2 ". Any suggestions or tips..it would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Blown Shocks!! How to prevent? (bb4socal)
that is a big NO NO!!
You never want to bottom out your shocks!
If you tuck tire 1/2 in you will bottom out your shocks and your car!
I don't know how to prevent that from happening besides driving VERY VERY carefully, but there may be a way (airbags maybe?)
You never want to bottom out your shocks!
If you tuck tire 1/2 in you will bottom out your shocks and your car!
I don't know how to prevent that from happening besides driving VERY VERY carefully, but there may be a way (airbags maybe?)
Re: (mgags7)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those kyb shocks are crap....get some konis or at least some tokicos... </TD></TR></TABLE>
KYB's are not crap. The GR-2's are OEM replacements. They are NOT performance shocks.
I bet after you "slam" your car, you will get tired of driving it after 3-4 months. Any takers?
KYB's are not crap. The GR-2's are OEM replacements. They are NOT performance shocks.
I bet after you "slam" your car, you will get tired of driving it after 3-4 months. Any takers?
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Re: (AndyD)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bb4socal »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> But im trying to get the fender to tuck tire just about 1/2 "</TD></TR></TABLE>
maybe you should sell your prelude and by a '64 Impala...
maybe you should sell your prelude and by a '64 Impala...
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Re: (AndyD)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I bet after you "slam" your car, you will get tired of driving it after 3-4 months. Any takers? </TD></TR></TABLE>
*raises hand*
The car will get tired of itself and crap out.
I bet after you "slam" your car, you will get tired of driving it after 3-4 months. Any takers?
</TD></TR></TABLE>*raises hand*
The car will get tired of itself and crap out.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sticky Tires »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
*raises hand*
The car will get tired of itself and crap out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
lmao
Exactly
*raises hand*
The car will get tired of itself and crap out.
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Exactly
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Re: (mgags7)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if they will blow that easily i think theyre junk....but if you have better experience then i stand down....</TD></TR></TABLE>
all equipment is designed with a certain spec in mind.
GR-2's are OEM replacements like andy said, meaning they were designed for stockish ride heights and stockish spring rates. it's not a mystery why these things died...though, i'm not sure many shocks will last long with the tires tucked.
anyway these are your choices:
-get a set of konis and have them shortened, which should cost an extra $100 per corner. shortening the konis (which is something that not a lot of shockmakers will do for you, certainly haven't heard of tokico or KYB doing that kind of custom work for people) allows them to function with less travel and less of a chance of bottoming out. this is mostly used by racers who don' want to be limited in their ride height capabilities by shock travel--though even race cars aren't tucking tires...
-custom fab yourself some extended shock top hats. GC makes a kit for the teg/civic kits, but nothing for preludes that i know of. the extended top hat allows for an extra half inch or so travel which could mean all the difference in shock longevity.
-raise the car. my car's pretty low at the moment (not tucking, though) but it's being absolutely punished at the current ride height. pretty soon my front tow hook will be front tow spears. i'll be surprised if i have exhaust pipe flanges in another 3 or 4 months...
all equipment is designed with a certain spec in mind.
GR-2's are OEM replacements like andy said, meaning they were designed for stockish ride heights and stockish spring rates. it's not a mystery why these things died...though, i'm not sure many shocks will last long with the tires tucked.
anyway these are your choices:
-get a set of konis and have them shortened, which should cost an extra $100 per corner. shortening the konis (which is something that not a lot of shockmakers will do for you, certainly haven't heard of tokico or KYB doing that kind of custom work for people) allows them to function with less travel and less of a chance of bottoming out. this is mostly used by racers who don' want to be limited in their ride height capabilities by shock travel--though even race cars aren't tucking tires...
-custom fab yourself some extended shock top hats. GC makes a kit for the teg/civic kits, but nothing for preludes that i know of. the extended top hat allows for an extra half inch or so travel which could mean all the difference in shock longevity.
-raise the car. my car's pretty low at the moment (not tucking, though) but it's being absolutely punished at the current ride height. pretty soon my front tow hook will be front tow spears. i'll be surprised if i have exhaust pipe flanges in another 3 or 4 months...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bard329 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so, i have the mugen suspension kit all around. should i be worried about damaging anything? i'm good at avoiding potholes and such but is mugen known for crapping out early?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Suspension kit as in springs? Are you using stock shocks/struts?
I never had Mugen products so I wouldn't know if they're spec'd to use with stock or aftermarket shocks/struts.
If they're made for aftermarket shocks/struts, and you're on stock shocks it'll eventually blow out one day. That's the downfall of modding cars. You better have the money for replacement parts!
Suspension kit as in springs? Are you using stock shocks/struts?
I never had Mugen products so I wouldn't know if they're spec'd to use with stock or aftermarket shocks/struts.
If they're made for aftermarket shocks/struts, and you're on stock shocks it'll eventually blow out one day. That's the downfall of modding cars. You better have the money for replacement parts!
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Re: (Sticky Tires)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sticky Tires »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Suspension kit as in springs? Are you using stock shocks/struts?
I never had Mugen products so I wouldn't know if they're spec'd to use with stock or aftermarket shocks/struts.
If they're made for aftermarket shocks/struts, and you're on stock shocks it'll eventually blow out one day. That's the downfall of modding cars. You better have the money for replacement parts!</TD></TR></TABLE>
well i bought the car w/ them already on... but it's these
http://www.kingmotorsports.com...elude
I never had Mugen products so I wouldn't know if they're spec'd to use with stock or aftermarket shocks/struts.
If they're made for aftermarket shocks/struts, and you're on stock shocks it'll eventually blow out one day. That's the downfall of modding cars. You better have the money for replacement parts!</TD></TR></TABLE>
well i bought the car w/ them already on... but it's these
http://www.kingmotorsports.com...elude
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Re: (bard329)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bard329 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i bought the car w/ them already on... but it's these
http://www.kingmotorsports.com...elude</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's a true coilover setup.
Mugen = $$$$$$ = High quality
If they fail on you, go to nearest Mugen headquarter and blow it up.
Seriously, you'll be fine.
http://www.kingmotorsports.com...elude</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's a true coilover setup.
Mugen = $$$$$$ = High quality
If they fail on you, go to nearest Mugen headquarter and blow it up.
Seriously, you'll be fine.
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Re: (cyb3rjak)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cyb3rjak »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that doesnt look like a true coilover set. looks just like mugen shocks and springs</TD></TR></TABLE>
it's the mugen showa suspension, it's a true coilover--much like the stock suspension setup is a "true coilover."
the terminology is all messed up, but any suspension in which the spring coil is slipped over the shock body is a "coilover." however, the term is mostly used to describe adjustable height coilovers these days.
the kit is not height adjustable, but being that it's mugen, it's as close as you can get in the parts world to a "very well engineered system." mugen does their homework, and this suspension can be sure to be properly valved for the corresponding spring rates, and will have OEM quality with better than OEM performance. it's really a nice setup for those who don't need adjustable ride height and damping, which is most drivers out there.
it's the mugen showa suspension, it's a true coilover--much like the stock suspension setup is a "true coilover."
the terminology is all messed up, but any suspension in which the spring coil is slipped over the shock body is a "coilover." however, the term is mostly used to describe adjustable height coilovers these days.
the kit is not height adjustable, but being that it's mugen, it's as close as you can get in the parts world to a "very well engineered system." mugen does their homework, and this suspension can be sure to be properly valved for the corresponding spring rates, and will have OEM quality with better than OEM performance. it's really a nice setup for those who don't need adjustable ride height and damping, which is most drivers out there.
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Re: (bad-monkey)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's the mugen showa suspension, it's a true coilover--much like the stock suspension setup is a "true coilover."
the terminology is all messed up, but any suspension in which the spring coil is slipped over the shock body is a "coilover." however, the term is mostly used to describe adjustable height coilovers these days.
the kit is not height adjustable, but being that it's mugen, it's as close as you can get in the parts world to a "very well engineered system." mugen does their homework, and this suspension can be sure to be properly valved for the corresponding spring rates, and will have OEM quality with better than OEM performance. it's really a nice setup for those who don't need adjustable ride height and damping, which is most drivers out there.</TD></TR></TABLE>
and combined with a set of rota slipstreams wrapped in toyo t1-s, it makes for some pretty good handling
the terminology is all messed up, but any suspension in which the spring coil is slipped over the shock body is a "coilover." however, the term is mostly used to describe adjustable height coilovers these days.
the kit is not height adjustable, but being that it's mugen, it's as close as you can get in the parts world to a "very well engineered system." mugen does their homework, and this suspension can be sure to be properly valved for the corresponding spring rates, and will have OEM quality with better than OEM performance. it's really a nice setup for those who don't need adjustable ride height and damping, which is most drivers out there.</TD></TR></TABLE>
and combined with a set of rota slipstreams wrapped in toyo t1-s, it makes for some pretty good handling
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